Suicide - why?

24 hours and 12 hours before his death.
He doesn't look like he's got a care in the world and just doesn't make sense.

I don't think you will ever really know. And it doesn't make any sense at all. It's a terrible thing to have happened to you and the family.

In a way, having experienced both parent's dying, my father of cancer my mother through suicide, I am not sure there is a reason you can find in any case where someone dies.

I think the control factor of suicide makes us want to go out and find the clues and solve it a bit like a mystery. But the fact my father got cancer was a mystery. A physical disease and death from it is not looked at in the same way but its really all on the same spectrum. I think its easier to track a death from a physical illness, but one from suicide, whether related to some sort of mental illness or not, is far harder. There is also something about our society that makes it all about the why.

Unless he said why he was doing it or left a note no one will ever really know. The inquest will find out quite a lot of things and ask questions and look for a reason in order to conclude a verdict and you might have some further answers from that process. I think some people find it a helpful process, others not but they do their best to try and find out the means and the method and the why of the death.

But the deep down 'facts' have sadly gone to the grave with your nephew. It was about him and he could have done it even if you knew him really really well.
 
Out of curiosity, what music did he listen to? I'm of the opinion that the miserable find refuge in miserable music.

The thing is he was far from being miserable and was fun to be around.
However 3 of his funeral songs are:
Lighthouse Family - High
Oasis - Slide Away
The Fugees - Ready Or Not

I think we should have musically guided him better.
 
I have often thought about it, but then again the idea of death terrifies me. Plus the idea of leaving my family to deal with it is unbearable.
 
slide away is a great song!

unfortuanate story.

i've felt low, useless, etc but i've always been of the frame of mind of what could happen tomorrow.

it is easy to become consumed by something, be it pressure, love etc people handle things on different levels. it's quite obvious that some people handle things better than others.

i don't think i could commit suicide, though i have considered it once if i was going to be faced with a certain situation i was in but even then, the thought of how it would destroy my family and friends and never seeing them again was enough for me to realise it was not an option.

i do understand though that sometimes people find themselves in a position where there is no way out.
 
I've never been able to get my head around suicide. I just cant see life as that bad, and i cant understand what would cause it to be bad.

I've broken up with girlfriends, people loved and not wanted to lose.
I've been in debt and jobless

I just cant grasp the concept of one of those reasons causing you to hurt yourself and end your life. Everything has a solution. Losing love hurts, but it gets better.

I just dont understand it.


This.
 
Should have told your step father to **** off and mind his own business. ;)

Glad you're happier nowadays!

Yeah having been quite close and managing to turn my head around I'malmost grateful I was there. Now I appreciate all the time I might have leftas it made me think that life is just too short to spend being sad.
 
a lot of people hold the pain internally because they believe they'll be judged as being "weak" I for one can talk about this from first hand experience. Everything in my life was fine but I just felt ******. a lot for zero reason. I started to question the point of living feeling like that constantly. Don't think I got to the point of wanting to kill myself. If It carried on though I don't know where I would have ended up to be honest, I moved out and turned my life around.

But I didn't show it. People call those who commit suicide weak or whatever stupid crapp they talk about but the point is if you've not been through it you really have no idea. Literally ZERO idea. Your opinion is total garbage and worthless.

I described my previous life experiences to a friend once and compared it to having a prison inside your mind and you don't even know why, that's why it's so hard. Some people are attention seekers yes. Generally those who say nothing though are ones you need to worry about.
 
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I dont think this is an approriate thread to be honest. A discussion on suicide is one thing but dissecting a recently deceased persons life and posting pictures of them is an invasoin of thier privacy.

Altough im only speaking from what i'd prefer if i'd died, and i wouldnt want a bunch of strangers on the internet picking over my life.
 
My fave relative killed herself, it still guts me to this day. 2 mates as well 1 under a train & 1 by rope.
The only conclusion I've come up with is that they were sick in the head, That sounds harsh but remember I am talking about my fave relative & good mates. In my opinion nobody of right mind kills themselves.
I hope those that loved him find some peace.
 
I dont think this is an approriate thread to be honest. A discussion on suicide is one thing but dissecting a recently deceased persons life and posting pictures of them is an invasoin of thier privacy.

Altough im only speaking from what i'd prefer if i'd died, and i wouldnt want a bunch of strangers on the internet picking over my life.

You would be dead, so you wouldn't ever know about it? :confused:
 
slide away is a great song!

unfortuanate story.

i've felt low, useless, etc but i've always been of the frame of mind of what could happen tomorrow.

it is easy to become consumed by something, be it pressure, love etc people handle things on different levels. it's quite obvious that some people handle things better than others.

i don't think i could commit suicide, though i have considered it once if i was going to be faced with a certain situation i was in but even then, the thought of how it would destroy my family and friends and never seeing them again was enough for me to realise it was not an option.

i do understand though that sometimes people find themselves in a position where there is no way out.

I've had trouble in my life as you have said above, non of these have ever gotten to me, yet I have actually considered suicide a few times for what seems to be no reason. It's just something that comes to mind. I imagine sometimes those thoughts can become to real for some people and they end up having trouble fighting them.
 
I can understand some people not liking this thread, it's not a comfortable subject.

However I think it's possibly one of the most important threads ever on this forum, the discussion and shared experiences (far more than I thought) are a real eye-opener. Though it won't bring any personal comfort to Dimple or his family I can only hope that this tragedy and thread will help someone at some point.

The fact that this forum is picked up by Google can only be a good thing.



On a personal note seeing those photos are very moving, that's not his son is it Dimple?
 
I've never been able to get my head around suicide. I just cant see life as that bad, and i cant understand what would cause it to be bad.

I've broken up with girlfriends, people loved and not wanted to lose.
I've been in debt and jobless

I just cant grasp the concept of one of those reasons causing you to hurt yourself and end your life. Everything has a solution. Losing love hurts, but it gets better.

I just dont understand it.

It's about getting to a point where you feel completely drained. You lack the will to go on. Perhaps accompanied by feelings of being useless, powerless, hopeless. It's easy to get to a place where you *don't* see the light at the end of the tunnel.

Then you might also have the internal conflict. People who, on a daily basis, are pulled one way then the other by conflicting emotions and internal "voices" (for want of a better word). I know from personal experience how draining that can be. Maybe as you're going about your daily life half of you is telling you you'll fail; you suck; how could anyone stand the sight of you... And the other voices are saying "no, keep at it, it'll get better", and you really don't know which is telling the truth.

Then you have people who have developed really self-destructive tendencies. They might be quiet subtle. Sometimes people deliberately do the things they know will make them unhappy; it reinforces their own negative self image and convinces them they were correct to assume they'll never be happy, etc.

If you combine of all these things into one big melting pot, coupled with the stresses and strains of everyday life - paying the bills, keeping the other people in your life happy - it's not difficult for me personally to see why people give up.

I'm no psychologist, but I guess you could start to categorise it if you wanted:

For some it could be an admission that you don't believe you can ever live the life you want to live. Never be accepted/never find partner/never escape poverty...

It could be feeling trapped, locked into a deeply unhappy situation where there appears to be no good way out.

It could be that you've had a look at your life and can't see the reason to keep going. You work to live, you live to work... why? So you can pay your taxes and feed yourself? Why? Good question.

List isn't exhaustive.
 
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