Summer Transfer Window 2013/2014 aka Arsenal , we can afford folks and the mancs really want Fellani

[G|mp]

You would think not but apparently Biz thinks there is, these are the same journalists who he posted about when he said;

Thiago has agreed to join City, waiting for Pellegrini to be announced first before it is confirmed.

Fernandinho deal is dead after we agreed a fee and terms, Shakhtar now want more money.

Terms agreed with Navas but no fee with Sevilla, he is holding out for Real Madrid

and finally Pellegrini wants Pepe :/ with no Kolo and Lescott likely on his way we do need a CB but I would sooner just use Richards there then buy Pepe.

Twitter is a journalists transfer window dream and poor Biz gets dragged into it every window.

 

[G|mp]

Navas has been going through counseling for his anxiety/homesickness, so perhaps he feels like he's ready to make the step away from home?

I imagine he is but Manchester is a pretty big move for someone that didn't want to move to another Spanish club.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

I imagine he is but Manchester is a pretty big move for someone that didn't want to move to another Spanish club.

If he didn't want to move to another spanish club and now he's moving to Manchester???? Makes no sense at all really unless he is completely over his home sickness.

 

[Stewy]

'Respected Journalist'

Is there such a thing?

there are shed loads of respectable football journalists over summer!

wait...

 

[Biz.Kid09]

You would think not but apparently Biz thinks there is, these are the same journalists who he posted about when he said;



Twitter is a journalists transfer window dream and poor Biz gets dragged into it every window.

Of course there are. There not all Shaun Custis or work for the Daily Mail!

I got those rumors from Twitter. Your right but it wasn't from any of the good journalists. I just did a search and picked out ones that looked at all possible at least.

I don't believe 90% of what is posted on there why do you seem to think I take it all as gospel?

We won't know until next month at least but he has said he is ready to move and basically isn't that affected by home sickness anymore. He went to south Africa and didn't have any known problems. A few years earlier he couldn't leave Seville so he has been working on it a while.

 

[FrankJH]

There is a pretty big difference if the Average wage at Utd is around £75k a week and the average at City is over £100k - 25% is not a small margin where ever you come from (I think even Chelsea where in the mid ~80's where they not?).


TalkSport /Daily Fail did have articles claiming that Utd had agreed terms with Benfica for Garay. Bit of a meh signing if true, personally would prefer to invest around double for Hummels but hey ho.

Were Manyoo an unattractive proposition after they went through a season winning nothing (other than the Community Shield) and finishing third in their Champions League group, with their only saving grace being they could pay a lot? No. They were a team which could pay a lot, but were obviously going to be competitive in the short and medium term - a description you could use for Citeh, too.
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The difference is that Man Utd have REPEATEDLY won major titles over the last 20 years, not just (so far) a single EPL title in 30 years or whatever (as you are clearly talking historically from the bolded part of your post)

A good proportion of the Utd team also know how difficult it is to repeat that success rather than just try to saunter to it like City attempted in 12-13 season. They are also hungry to do it again - and by virtue of not being paid the most on average as a squad aren't (all, at the very least) doing it just for the money.

Until City have won doubles (either multiple FA & EPL wins in a season, back to back titles or Euro glory) ......even without mentioning trebles.....it is completely ridiculous from a winning mentality pov to even compare the two clubs.

From a future pov, it is quite possible Utd may not win another thing for one or two decades whether we stick with Moyes for that long or try 10 other managers in that time. However the same can also be said for Chelsea, City, Arsenal or whoever - no-one is gaurenteed success however much money or Special-ness is bought in.

 

[G|mp]

Of course there are. There not all Shaun Custis or work for the Daily Mail!

I got those rumors from Twitter. Your right but it wasn't from any of the good journalists. I just did a search and picked out ones that looked at all possible at least.

I don't believe 90% of what is posted on there why do you seem to think I take it all as gospel?

Name me one Dear Biz.

Name me one journalist that only reports on factual deals and I will name you 100 that use BS to sell papers/hits on websites. I think you take it as gospel becasue you're quite happy to start naming formations to fit in your rumoured player.

You really are quite naive.

 

[fez]

There is no such thing as a reliable transfer news source. Either they speculate massively to stay ahead of the game or they wait until it is almost a done deal and by that time everyone knows about it.

 

[Gooner14]

to sell papers/hits on websites.

And that's what it all boils down to. Make up/Twist quotes etc to match your agenda to get hits.

 

[bloodline76]

Name me one Dear Biz.

Name me one journalist that only reports on factual deals and I will name you 100 that use BS to sell papers/hits on websites. I think you take it as gospel becasue you're quite happy to start naming formations to fit in your rumoured player.

You really are quite naive.

Name the 100

 

[FrankJH]

No, I'm not. I'm talking about the season before the one we just had. Please don't misrepresent what I say.

which is historical rather than the future

Or its "current" - and therefore Utd have won, 3 out of 4 titles.......oh sorry that doesn't work for your argument does it!!!

Just face it - you didn't think through your comparison in the slightest.

 

[FrankJH]

It doesn't matter whether you say the last 5 years or the last 10 or the last 30, City still have only 1 major success - whereas Utd have bucketloads

 

[Biz.Kid09]

Name me one Dear Biz.

Name me one journalist that only reports on factual deals and I will name you 100 that use BS to sell papers/hits on websites. I think you take it as gospel becasue you're quite happy to start naming formations to fit in your rumoured player.

You really are quite naive.

I would say Di Marzio is a respectable journalist. No one is perfect so of course he isn't going to get everything right. Of course you can. I could. Doesn't mean there aren't some good ones out there.

Start naming formations? You mean posting up a screenshot of a team with one player in who doesn't actually play for us. I guess Tom and Robfosters are also naive and believe Twitter is gospel because they too have included players who have been linked with them eg Ronaldo and Strootman or Higuian and Wanyama.

 

[G|mp]

I would say Di Marzio is a respectable journalist. No one is perfect so of course he isn't going to get everything right. Of course you can. I could. Doesn't mean there aren't some good ones out there.

Start naming formations? You mean posting up a screenshot of a team with one player in who doesn't actually play for us. I guess Tom and Robfosters are also naive and believe Twitter is gospel because they too have included players who have been linked with them eg Ronaldo and Strootman or Higuian and Wanyama.

I'm not talking about the picture you posted the other day, you have in the past, several times in fact posted a foramtion you think would work with players you haven't even signed. A lot of them were around the time of Tevez playing Golf and you putting 2 and 2 together and getting 5 by putting people in his place that you had been linked with.

Just another example of where you think you know best and then get made to look stupid.

 

[BaZ87]

Give him a break. There's more than just him that make up imaginary teams on here.

 

[Biz.Kid09]

I'm not talking about the picture you posted the other day, you have in the past, several times in fact posted a foramtion you think would work with players you haven't even signed. A lot of them were around the time of Tevez playing Golf and you putting 2 and 2 together and getting 5 by putting people in his place that you had been linked with.

Just another example of where you think you know best and then get made to look stupid.

Wow. Two years ago and your talking about it now!
Is it really that bad me seeing someone we are linked with and then putting them into our current team and seeing what its like?
Really?

I think you need to put me on ignore because you clearly have some kind of problem with me so why both reading my posts and then replying back?

 

[Shamikebab]

This has gone slightly off topic.

 

[FrankJH]

And long term past performance is not an indicator of future results, in football - you don't expect Nottingham Forest to have a better chance of winning than Citeh, just because they've won more in the past. Talking about the last two years is completely different to talking about the last thirty. Citeh still has the players from last year and the year before... it doesn't have the players from thirty years ago.

If anything's an indicator, wages are - the premier league finishing spots being pretty close to the wage bill rank of the teams, most years.

It can do if you still have that experience to count on.

Giggs, Rooney?, Ferdinand (all 10 years at Utd or more), and to a lesser extent , Evra, Vidic, Carrick, Fletcher?, Valencia, Nani?, Hernandez all have multiple titles under their belts. (question marks are just referring to whether they will be relevant from Utd's perspective in the future)

That group experience counts for a lot especially playing together as a team /squad.

(remember I haven't even included the members of the UTD squad that have similar levels of experience to the City players, like RvP, Smalling, Jones, Rafael, Cleverley, Welbeck, Kagawa (multiple title winner in Germany), De Gea)

THATS why it shouldn't be dismissed as easily as you seem to want to (or you are just being a WUM as per normal). City (and to a lesser extent Chelsea) do not have that collective experience to fall back on.

Maybe you are being thick on purpose but from a City perspective, it doesn't matter whether you count the last two or the last twenty (or 30) years, they have still only won the title once (and failed to hold onto it once too). While the current Utd squad have

A lot of people on here were saying last summer, because they have already won it once, now they will find it easier to win it again and again. Yet look how far they lagged at the end (even with Utd gifting a few games at the end of the season)

Its a lot harder to keep hold of than to win once in isolation.

That's why in my FIRST post I differentiated between past and future (and right now, Chelsea, Utd and City have an equal chance of winning consistently for the next few years)

City just cant count on that level of winning mentality.

 

[Andybtsn]

This has gone slightly off topic.

Yeah back on transfer talk plead. No more of this rubbish.

 

[FrankJH]

Sorry I should learn to ignore certain people and their delusions

-edit - rumours Powell could be sent out on loan again next season at Championship level.

This is the wrong move (unless Im mistaken about the below);

I would say keep him at Utd at least until we are out of the Carling Cup (or whatever its called now lol) - because Im sure loans can still be arranged well into the season.

I can see the need for regular football, and I know CC cup games are only every 2 -3 weeks or something up to Christmas.....depending on how far the club gets of course. Surely he can be given 1st team sub appearances too during that time to see how he does.