Summer Transfer Window 2013/2014 aka Arsenal , we can afford folks and the mancs really want Fellani

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fez said:
I think we are all hoping that if everyone tells him he is talking rubbish enough times it might sink in. I do admire his capacity to completely ignore everyone else whilst receiving no support for his views at all.
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Doesn't work with cm and other posters though does it?
 
Moses said:
Newspaper articles have always made it seem like Wenger has great faith in Szczęsny's ability, so I can't seem them signing someone who's going to definitely want to be number one/someone who's number one ahead of Szczęsny. It'd be like Manyoo signing a 'big' 'keeper to start ahead of De Gea... something which would obviously hold him back.

After Arsenal qualified for the Champions League, an Arsenal supporting friend posted up something about the Mertesacker/Koscielny partnership being unbeaten all season. If that's true, that's remarkable... and if Szczęsny played most, if not all, of those games, it goes to show that he can do the job if he has a solid partnership in front of him, does it not?
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It certainly does, I must admit I haven't seen Szczęsny much this season but can remember rumours Wenger has lost faith in him etc. If Szczęsny has been involved in that then he deserves his shot, but personally I feel Begovic is a stronger keeper all around.

If none of the top 4 want him then that is great news for Stoke! He really is a great keeper, this last year he has been the single most consistent player in the team in my opinion.

I was worried when he replaced Sorensen because he was a little shaky to begin with but he has stepped up and for £3M nobody can complain! He would have got many many more clean sheets if the team was setup to attack rather than suppress the opposition and soak up attacks when the team wasn't good enough.

Put him in the Arsenal, Spurs or Liverpool team and they would be a dam site stronger. Only United, City and Chelsea have keepers in the same class as him (in my opinion).
 
I'm still undecided on Szczesny, for his age he's got a lot of potential, but his form seems to vanish alarmingly at times. At other times he's brilliant.
 
The__Malteser said:
Very good. He's more of a second striker sort of player, rather than a poacher/Van Persie type of player. He has the vision, creativity and flair to do well in many top teams. Jovetic along with Ljajic have created a very good front pair for Fiorentina this season, but none of them are real strikers.

I feel he can fit in well in some sort of 4-3-2-1 or 4-3-3 formation, playing behind a lone striker (Giroud) and near Podolski. Midfield can be formed by Cazorla, Wilshere, Arteta.



FOR **** SAKE STOP COMMENTING ON **** YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT. I SWEAR YOU JUST LIKE ARGUMENTS. **** OFF.
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I see one person arguing, you, where was I arguing, its called discussion and while you think you have the ownership on watching Serie A therefore know everything, you're ignoring one thing, he's not going to another Serie A side and your analysis shows how daft your assumption is.

Arsenal won't play a 4-3-2-1 and it wouldn't suit the existing players, he also won't play behind a lone striker in Giroud in a 4-3-3, because he's going to Arsenal. We just gave Walcott a 100k a week contract, he's a STARTER, therefore Giroud + Podolski + Walcott leaves zero room for Jovetic, but while suggesting stupid things Wenger WON'T DO while calling other people ignorant, why not think a little before you make daft suggestions.

Likewise, read what I said, Giroud is IN NO WAY A LONE STRIKER, his best games have come when he's had significant support and Podolski running ahead of him, his best play comes exactly the same way Jovetic plays... AND ARSENAL DON'T PLAY THAT WAY. When Podolski has gotten close enough to Giroud and Giroud has played the support role and played people in behind has mostly been against woeful teams where Arsenal essentially just go all out attack. Against tougher teams Giroud has been isolated, Podolski and generally the whole midfield pushed further back, Giroud has been fairly isolated and he's been pretty poor, Arsenal do not want to and should not play Jovetic behind Giroud, because they are the same type of player and Giroud is a poor lone striker, likewise the way Arsenal play and Wenger's history with strikers is, Giroud will get benched and Jovetic will play lone striker, which from what I've seen he's really not suited for, OR we'll like 58 other central attacking midfielders and strikers, play Jovetic on the wing... another role he doesn't seem suited for.

Jovetic's best play, is in the same way Giroud plays best, and it isn't the way Arsenal actually play, so Jovetic would be a REPLACEMENT for a guy we've just spent 12mil on, who isn't doing very well because Arsenal don't play in a way that suits that player, so putting in a better player who costs at least twice as much who still won't be playing in a position/role that suits him is utterly stupid.

Jovetic might work in another team, but not with the current Arsenal players nor the way Arsenal play, I also quantified this with the possibility Wenger could utterly revamp the team and play in a different way, but you have to factor in Wenger's lack of tactical changes in the past, 15 years, the lack of showing a willingness to change his ways quickly or majorly with one major change in his whole time at Arsenal moving from a stupidly offensive 4-4-2 to a hasn't worked well since then 4-3-3.

Most of my post is specifically about how a player like Jovetic would fit into the current Arsenal team, and without Jovetic being absolutely stunningly brilliant in his role, replacing Giroud who we have just spent 12mil on with another player without believing he would signifcantly and massively change the team is just madness.

If anything as we HAVE Giroud and paid for Giroud he would be the guy we should drop back and we should be going after a genuine 20+ league goal a season finisher, not a replacement for a player of a type we already have.

Arsenal's biggest problem is Wenger, for 8 years we've been buying strikers and pushing them out wide. Bendtner played more as a right winger than a striker in his last full season at Arsenal, a right winger... Bendtner, slow, big and having been effective as a striker before. Vela, Eduardo, Podolski, Giroud at times, Walcott, Santi(at times, more as the season went on), Arshavin, Rosicky(for his first few seasons), over and over again. Hell, Henry was shoved out wide by Wenger, just at Monaco, he fixed that when he came to Arsenal, it worked that once so he's tried it on almost every striker since. Wiltord and Bergkamp even got shoved out wide pretty often. With 15 years of buying strikers and playing them wide for no apparent reason, is it worth spending another 24mil( probably with potential bonuses, which we likely won't ever have to pay :p ), on yet another big striker who plays in a withdrawn position that doesn't suit Arsenal, that 3-4 players previously have been bought for but the position not used, who will likely get shoved upfront on his own with little support or shoved out wide, neither being his favoured position... 24mil for a guy good in a particular role that we do not use?
 
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Guessing managers are now transferable assets.

Tony Pulis out. Madness on the part of Stoke board and fans. He tried something different this season and got sacked for trying to change the style from the previous version. Why stoke fans think they will suddenly be challenging for CL with new manager i dont know.
 
If Stoke change the way they play football, they will face a long time of readjustment with new players and a new ideaology.

It's going to be a very interesting summer window and a very interesting season, I just wish it wasn't a World Cup season as they tend to be more low key.

On the plus, I can't wait to get over to Brasil for the World Cup :cool:.
 
Anyone else hearing that Poyet is on his way to the Premier League?

Also hearing that he was suspended over tapping up current Brighton players over moving with him in to the Premier League.
 
Tummy said:
Anyone else hearing that Poyet is on his way to the Premier League?

Also hearing that he was suspended over tapping up current Brighton players over moving with him in to the Premier League.
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So I didn't get to see Brighton in the PL AND we have to put up with the **** up there?

I hate football.
 
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Image too large :(

http://www.whufc.com/articles/20130521/hammers-seal-rat-signing_2236884_3185418

Also, Cole has been released from West Ham, and the fee for Caroll is around 15M :p
 
Robbo said:
Kagawa hasn't been at the club that long and has been injured for a while so I'm not sure exactly how to judge it regarding mismanagement.

He isn't "too weak."

I really don't think you've watched him much at all, or you wouldn't be this negative.
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See, now its 'mismanagement'. Because, presumably its okay to use this word now Fergie is no longer active manager?

When he was playing rooney on the wing, or Rafael in midfield, or jones in midfield, or smalling at RB it was just good old Fergie rotating his players. And it was me at fault because fergie has won everything.

I've watched Kagawa well enough, like I say, he is quite neat and tidy. Influential on a game as a whole? Not so much.

Last match, second half I think, the ball broke to him near the half way line. No one (as I recall) was marking him and he could have turned and ran right at their defence, but instead he just passed it back into trouble in towards our centrebacks. I so wanted to make a gif.
 
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