Super Aguri has pulled out of Formula 1

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Simple steps:
1) Ban/limit refuelling - control power/speed by limiting total fuel allowed.
2) Ban all driver aids - make the driver drive, not the car.
3) Allow turbos back (1) would prevent stupid powers. Variable boost would allow more power when you wanted it but you will run out of fuel if you use it too much.
4) Optionally limit downforce - car in wind tunnel in clean air at 50, 100mph, downforce must be less than 50%, 100% of car weight for example.

Just ideas !

I like these, and the FIA are comming close. Not sure about limiting refuling, but going back to qualifying on low fuel to allowed the grid to not just be everyone in race order would help overtaking. All driver aids should be banned. Dont know about turbos, the engines are that far apart... And downforce definately needs to be reduced, which the FIA are planning for next year, along with a move back to slicks. all these changes were to make the sport safer, but now they are goiung back as its alos made the sport boring.
 
Well I think F1 needs to be a showcase for the auto industry given that most of teams are now automaker backed. Its clear where that needs to be - fuel efficiency. Striking a balance between that and good racing would be hard but VAG are way ahead on this with the Le Mans TDI cars. This is success that will actually translate to sales, another Toyota coming in 9th won't.

It seems ludicrous to me that top manufacturers are willing to pile in hundreds of millions of dollars when if you aren't getting podium finishes it isn't even that positive for your brand.
 
The FIA's pushing for mandatory KERS systems is a direct reaction to the lack of relevance F1 tech has on road cars these days.

In the past, Honda would use their F1 projects as a proving ground for the best and brightest of their younger engineering staff. I'm not sure it's the case anymore.
 
The KERS system really interests me, using the lost energy which is then pushed back into the engine.

I believe its going to be developed into a "Push to Pass" sort of system A1gp use and what the Champ Cars used before the series merged with IRL.

That mixed with the lower aero and slicks should defiantly bring back a lot of overtaking. Hopefully it wont be abandoned and forgotten like the CDG rear wing concept. (Which I liked imo)

But I think the FIA could still do more.
 
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I agree F1 is too expensive for its own good, but it needs to remain the pinicle of motorsport. And please stop spouting absolute rubbish!

Great debating skills, I don't agree with everything you have typed but I have more class than to resort to comments like that.

I personally would like to see a more equal footing to bring budgets down and bring new sponsors and teams in. As i said no one is breaking the door down.

Well I think F1 needs to be a showcase for the auto industry given that most of teams are now automaker backed. Its clear where that needs to be - fuel efficiency. Striking a balance between that and good racing would be hard but VAG are way ahead on this with the Le Mans TDI cars. This is success that will actually translate to sales, another Toyota coming in 9th won't.

It seems ludicrous to me that top manufacturers are willing to pile in hundreds of millions of dollars when if you aren't getting podium finishes it isn't even that positive for your brand.


Exactly, before it was feasible to make your shareholders see that the few million you put in was worth the effort. Not anymore, it's far to expensive which is why Renault have made noises about leaving the sport. They hardly sold anymore renaults for being world champions.

It has no bearing on the auto industry anymore, what was the last f1 innovation that made the motor industry.

No-one thinks wow renault won the title they must build great cars. Porsche and the VAG group won't get remotely interested in f1 while it costs 400million dollars.

Honda had to run that earth dream rubbish because no one is interested in backing them despite the number of cars they sell.
 
Has anyone noticed that the FIA's continual tinkering with the rules (read: EVERY year) has coincided with the budgets sky-rocketing? Changing the rules every season means £millions in re-design costs. Teams will have to waste money this season on improving their cars only for many of the improvements to be obsolete when the new regs come in. It also means they need to be designing the 2009 cars after race 3/4 of this year - totally ridiculous imo. No wonder teams like Super Aguri can't afford to compete!

Prize money also seems not to be an issue if This is to be belived. The source is an old one, well, beginning of last year but gives an idea and given that the Concorde agreement has been extended until 2012 it won't be that far out.

sportinglife website said:
Interestingly, Dennis has also revealed that Ferrari received around £14million for winning the world championship - that is around £5million less than they reputedly paid Michael Schumacher for helping to bring the title to Maranello.

Although, as Ferrari's budget is reportedly around the £140million per season mark, the prize money for them is relatively insignificant.

Toyota, last year's 10th placed team - the prize money only goes to the top 10 even if there are more teams - collected half of the money that went to Ferrari, around £7million, for its efforts.

As Toyota's budget is probably almost on a par with Ferrari, the Japanese car giant are unlikely to miss the millions but not so Minardi - the team with the smallest budget - who would have received a million or so more for finishing ninth.
 
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