Super Straight - a new sexuality???

Gender and sex are the same thing. The people who disagree probably wasted their time doing "gender studies" at uni.
This, frankly. Something also represented in older dictionaries before some good ol' post-modern revisionism kicked in and caveats began to be introduced (e.g. they aren't the same, gender is instead a social factor). It's a pretty common part of the playbook now, either appropriate and redefine or spin something else off.

An awful lot of people and institutions, far smarter with far more authority on the subject than you both, disagree.
 
You are either straight, bi, gay.

A) you like members of opposite sex
B) you like members of both sexes
C) you like members of same sex

Rest of this non binary and there are 100 genders is just ******** for confused people.

This is what happens when you worship money and materialism. When no one believes in anything and submit to there base lusts and desires with no moral compass.
 
You are either straight, bi, gay.

A) you like members of opposite sex
B) you like members of both sexes
C) you like members of same sex


Sexual orientation isn't sex or gender, so that's irrelevant.

Also, off on a tangent, sexual orientation is somewhat more a spectrum than the 2 and a bit discrete groups it's usually framed as being. Bisexuality isn't always a 50/50 split. I say "2 and a bit" because bisexuality is generally given less attention or overlooked entirely. It's like our 2 and a bit party system, with bisexuality as the Liberal Democrats :)

Rest of this non binary and there are 100 genders is just ******** for confused people.

I'm not at all confused. I just don't need to pretend that everything fits neatly into two (or two and a bit) discrete groups when it obviously doesn't. Sex does, at least as a reasonable approximation, but gender absolutely doesn't. The 10, 50, 100 or whatever genders is actually the same problem - pretending that there discrete group when there aren't. Those people are just pretending a larger number of discrete groups.

This is what happens when you worship money and materialism. When no one believes in anything and submit to there base lusts and desires with no moral compass.

Eh, what? Where's the connection to that? Is this like those theists who pretend that atheists are all sociopaths or something because religion is required for any moral compass?
 
Ok, so you would gender them with their chosen gebder, even though sex wise, it doesn’t match their gender they have chosen to identify as. Congratulations, you’ve achieved the basic level of decorum and politeness it takes to respect trans people. That’s all anyone is asking really.

This super straight stuff has only come around because of people blowing up that request, and conflating it with the likes of the deplorable trans community like Jessica Yaniv acting in bad faith as if they are anyone but an outlier, demanding you be attracted to them as a “woman”.

this is just objectively untrue - if it were true then trans women participating in sport wouldn't be the big issue it is currently, especially in the US with executive orders at a federal level, individual states passing legislation etc..

Ditto to dating apps wanting to cater to, for example, lesbians - they have issues with trans women wanting access.

Pretty much any area where females wish to meet among themselves will have trans women either demanding access or trying to shut it down - whether it is an app or a rape counseling session or helpline or a shelter etc..

If grouping by gender identity is valid then why not also by sex - sex-based rights are important to some people and grouping with people of the same sex is something some people wish to do in various circumstances.

A biological woman attending, for example, a rape support group might not feel very comfortable around males in general. That some man present has chosen to identify as a woman shouldn't negate that such a group may choose to be organised on the basis of sex rather than chosen gender identity.

Simplistic slogans like "trans women are women" are taken as absolute by some activists and the notion of biological sex being important still is completely dismissed or waved away with some dubious "sex is on a spectrum too, look intrasex people exist" type argument. This results in ridiculous stances like the image posted previously re: sucking a "woman's penis" being straight etc... The super straight idea satirises this stuff perfectly and was instantly recognised by groups campaigning for sex-based rights - in particular, including LGB people, some of whom quite readily added in super lesbian, super gay etc... That in itself isn't transphobic, it's a completely legitimate response to the absolutist position that "trans women are women" and therefore the exact same rules that are applied to biological women must be applied to trans women without exception.
 
With gender being hijacked and promoted as a state of mind its historic value in separating males and females is being diluted and specifically stating biological sex is likely to be the way to ensure clarity when required.
 
this is just objectively untrue - if it were true then trans women participating in sport wouldn't be the big issue it is currently, especially in the US with executive orders at a federal level, individual states passing legislation etc..

Ditto to dating apps wanting to cater to, for example, lesbians - they have issues with trans women wanting access.

Pretty much any area where females wish to meet among themselves will have trans women either demanding access or trying to shut it down - whether it is an app or a rape counseling session or helpline or a shelter etc..

If grouping by gender identity is valid then why not also by sex - sex-based rights are important to some people and grouping with people of the same sex is something some people wish to do in various circumstances.

A biological woman attending, for example, a rape support group might not feel very comfortable around males in general. That some man present has chosen to identify as a woman shouldn't negate that such a group may choose to be organised on the basis of sex rather than chosen gender identity.

Simplistic slogans like "trans women are women" are taken as absolute by some activists and the notion of biological sex being important still is completely dismissed or waved away with some dubious "sex is on a spectrum too, look intrasex people exist" type argument. This results in ridiculous stances like the image posted previously re: sucking a "woman's penis" being straight etc... The super straight idea satirises this stuff perfectly and was instantly recognised by groups campaigning for sex-based rights - in particular, including LGB people, some of whom quite readily added in super lesbian, super gay etc... That in itself isn't transphobic, it's a completely legitimate response to the absolutist position that "trans women are women" and therefore the exact same rules that are applied to biological women must be applied to trans women without exception.

I personally have no issues with grouping things by sex, rather than by gender. I have been a massive counter advocate both online and in person about allowing trans women to compete in women's mma for instance, based on the biological advantage of having a shed load of Test inside them during their developing years.

No where have I seen anything of note cave to this, beyond very specific out lining exaggerated cases, like for example low level high school sports. I have seen the abuse and mocking of online dating profile screen shots, again, not seeing the issue, lesbians can very decline to match with, just like any of us can on any dating app.

These are tiny issues caused by a tiny minority of trans people in comparison to the abuse trans people in general are getting over them.
 
What you guys really have to stop and think about is...Does it affect your day to day life in any way what so ever? Let freaks be freaks and just get on with what you have to do in life,
The only point you should stop and say no way jose is when it does get shoved in your face and tend to alter the way you live.
 
What you guys really have to stop and think about is...Does it affect your day to day life in any way what so ever? Let freaks be freaks and just get on with what you have to do in life,
The only point you should stop and say no way jose is when it does get shoved in your face and tend to alter the way you live.

Agreed.
 
How did that end up for Jessica Yaniv?

Can you show me someone who has been hamstrung, dragged and portrayed in the most abysmal light for not wanting to sleep with a transwoman?
I didn't mean specifically the refusing to sleep with a transwoman, although you only need to sit in the SM discussions with pro trans people to see that you are indeed shouted down as a transphobe, and therefore deserve death, if you don't identify as willing to sleep with a transwoman (a superstraight).

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That last one, wow.

Then, when I said you will be dragged for not sharing trans views in general. Surely you've read about the problems that arise now that trans people are expecting access to women's toilets? Not to mention all the rape situations that result now from allowing men in the women's toilets? Would you yourself dare not pander though? Would you honestly open a restaurant and explicitly state no trans in the other toilet, for the protection of others?

Transgender woman, 18, sexually assaulted girl, 10, in Morrisons' female toilets - just weeks after using mobile to peep on another girl in Asda loos

Then let's consider sports. Is anyone really going to dare stop men beating up women, when it flies in the face of this ridiculous avenue we seem to be intent on getting drawn down? No, don't protect women, because that affects the rights of the trans person that probably isn't good enough to compete against their own sex. It's ok to break a woman's skull, but pray to God if you're a transphobe.


These examples aren't exclusive, look long enough, and yes society is hamstrung. All power to the minorities.

Transphobic trend ‘super straight’ has links to the far-right and neo-Nazis
 
What you guys really have to stop and think about is...Does it affect your day to day life in any way what so ever? Let freaks be freaks and just get on with what you have to do in life,
The only point you should stop and say no way jose is when it does get shoved in your face and tend to alter the way you live.
I don't like the idea that a man in a dress can access women's toilets. No, it doesn't affect me directly but as a decent upstanding citizen, I care about the safety of others. If I have a daughter, I'd have concern. Women should be allowed privacy and security. It shouldn't be a free for all through fear of being labelled transphobe because the power of that word is like labelling racist and homophobic. You're essentially a bad person and you don't have any comeback to it.
 
If you come away from the internet for a week watch what happens, it's like another universe :P
If all you watch and read is about the freaks of nature then of course that's always going to be a worry to you.
 
[..] These are tiny issues caused by a tiny minority of trans people in comparison to the abuse trans people in general are getting over them.

It would be nice if you were right, but you aren't. Even if it was a "tiny minority" (which you state with no supporting evidence) that would be irrelevant. Society is not a referendum. There are numerous examples of a determined minority becoming dominant by a combination of propaganda and the willingness to do harm. The most extreme example of that in modern times is, of course, the Nazis. They were a tiny minority to begin with.
 
if you had a daughter...you're verging on what women do when they are angry with you and you don't know how to respond to their bs, " imagine this fictional situation would have happened due to your actions and this other fictional situation "
 
If you come away from the internet for a week watch what happens, it's like another universe :p
If all you watch and read is about the freaks of nature then of course that's always going to be a worry to you.
Correct, you could indeed just bury your head in the sand. Meanwhile, women are getting raped because we're letting men in their toilets and professional athletes who have trained their whole lives are being destroyed because Edwina didn't like to compete against their own sex.
 
if you had a daughter...you're verging on what women do when they are angry with you and you don't know how to respond to their bs, " imagine this fictional situation would have happened due to your actions and this other fictional situation "
I get it, you're pro-rape.
 
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