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A recent experience in North London sprang to mind!
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A recent experience in North London sprang to mind!
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hehe fail thread is full of fail.
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You need to shop in Waitrose 
No need for insults mate, it makes you sound like a right chav. Which you probably are
With a name like that Diamondmark...he probably is
...either that or a cockneyAnyhow dont really care how people greet me...as long as they can speaka da english its all good.
I wasn't rude to her, I was polite. Just because I made a thread highlighting one of my pet peeves which is the lack of good english spoken today, doesn't make me arrogant or out of line. Just because I have higher standards of how I think people should speak doesn't make me an idiot, not does it suggest I speak perfectly either. But I do speak quite well and it HAS landed me some good work.
Actually, gathering from your first post, anyone who doesn't speak in standard English or speaks colloquialy is 'common as muck' which in itself is highly arrogant.
If you wish to be so arrogant about the language, atleast make sure your posts are up to standard and written in 'proper english'.
I'm not a grammar Nazi, but if someone who's so willing to look down on other people for reasons you state, then I expect them to have a high standard of language.
You forgot to notice the tounge in cheek smiley when I said that.
It still doesn't mean that you don't come off as a highly arrogant person that is unable to type the English language correctly.
Would it be so hard for you to capitalise, or do arrogant people get scared to type correctly?
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Would it be so hard for you to capitalise, or do arrogant people get scared to type correctly?
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It still doesn't mean that you don't come off as a highly arrogant person that is unable to type the English language correctly.
Would it be so hard for you to capitalise, or do arrogant people get scared to type correctly?
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Oh and
For one thing, we're talking about how people speak, not how they type. How someone speaks, even just one word, gives me a first impression of what type of person they are. no one could accuse me of being chavy by the way I write, even with my mistakes. Btw, where haven't I capitalised so I can make sure I capitalise in future. I'm quite happy to be corrected on things.
Anyway, I'd rather be arrogant than welsh.
That could be argued by someone without any relevant experience or knowledge. Someone from a different culture perhaps, with an imperfect understanding of English as it's actually used.
"alright" is just a noise. It doesn't suggest anything, least of all any interest in how the other person is feeling. Even if it's expanded into something less like a slurred grunting, it still doesn't really mean anything. "How are you?" is equally meaningless in almost all contexts, as is the rather odd question I'm often asked as a greeting - "How are we?" Bizarre - how am I supposed to know how you are and why are you asking me how you are? It's nonsense. Luckily I can just ignore how nonsensical it is because in reality it has no meaning. They don't care how I am, I don't care how they are. We may as well greet each other with random words. "Yellow!" "Aardvark!".
For one thing, we're talking about how people speak, not how they type. How someone speaks, even just one word, gives me a first impression of what type of person they are. no one could accuse me of being chavy by the way I write, even with my mistakes. Btw, where haven't I capitalised so I can make sure I capitalise in future. I'm quite happy to be corrected on things.
Anyway, I'd rather be arrogant than welsh.
How do you know they wouldn't accuse you of being Chavy? I could equally say no one would accuse me of being chavy and common as muck for saying 'alright' or 'Hey mate, what drink you want?' but this thread with yourself and Justin has disproven that.
How people type is equally as important as how a person speaks. The post started off as 'speaking' then moved onto 'language' which then is open for me to criticise your typing!
A few mistakes actually, an ellipsis is '...' 3 dots, it's 'English language' rather than 'english language', a full stop to mark the end of a sentence rather than a green smiley face! and if I wish to be even more pedantic, I don't believe that 'chavy' is a word! I know chav has been entered, but chavy hasn't.
I may be Welsh, but thank Osiris I'm not French!
Atleast THAT we can agree on!No, what makes you an idiot is failing to appreciate sentiment. Only an idiot could construe the term "y'all right" to be anything other than an attempt to communicate some sort of greeting. Sensible, more intelligent people, realise that this is a term some people use to greet others and accept it for what it is.
But well done - you've let everyone on an internet forum know that you think your standard of English is better than a person who served you at a supermarket. Top marks.
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TBHm, being polite and then running away to the internet to **** her off is pretty rude in my crazy warped world of moral standards.
First of all: what exactly constitutes 'good English'? Who decides this arbitrary measure of whether somebodys grasp of a language is good or bad? You? The Oxford Dictionary? Teachers?
I argue that society as a majority would be the best group to arbitrarily decide what is and isn't good English, seeing as language's primary focus is to serve society's interests.
Secondly: Your standards, in a linguistic sense, are largely irrelevant if they are not held by the majority of people speaking that language. This thread is evidence that they are not.
Language isn't something that someone can be deemed to be 'good' at, in my opinion. In the big scheme of things, the only thing that matters is if one can use that language effectively to communicate. Since she has been able to land a job, get dressed, and make her way to work on I assume a regular basis without dying due to dehydration, lack of food, or adequate accommodation, one can quite easily say that she can use language effectively for her needs. If you were to pick her up and put her in a foreign land, she would quite easily pick up a new language... as needs require. That is the only basis by which one persons grasp of language can be judged, in my opinion.
Eloquency is not necessary for survival. It is, in basic terms, a waste of time to say anything that isn't straight to the point. Long words and sentence structures are merely there to bring variety and dare I say it, academic elitism.
If you had grown up surrounded by parents, other children and family that spoke the way that this checkout girl did, you'd see nothing wrong with the way the she spoke. That's the nature of language. Just because you have a different grasp of it (although I don't think it's that different) doesn't mean that her grasp is wrong.
As far as I, and pretty much everyone in this thread, am concerned "Y'alright?" is just as much of an acceptable greeting as "Hello" or "Good day to you Sir, what a fine and excellent morning!"
Thirdly, and lastly: What job did you get that placed such importance on the spoken word? Public speaker?
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Which means they take longer per customer, which their bosses won't like. Supermarkets usually go as far as counting scans per hour for till staff.
It's a lose-lose situation when you're working these sort of jobs. Either you're criticised for not being friendly enough with customers (which takes time) or you're criticised for not processing customers quickly enough (because you've taken the time needed to be friendly).
You lot are going so over the top. I made a very simple point at the start of the thread. Just because I said I prefer someone to say hello instead of arrrright, you're taking me to task on it left, right and centre. Seven pages later and you're still creating new arguments for the sake of it. Everyone has pet peeves, what's the big deal?
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