Supplements the debate/discussion thread

My question was less to do with the "window" but more towards is there any point in taking a post work out shake so close to dinner if the dinner I am eating is a good source of protein? And would taking the shake pre-workout be a good idea.
 
Maxeh said:
My question was less to do with the "window" but more towards is there any point in taking a post work out shake so close to dinner if the dinner I am eating is a good source of protein? And would taking the shake pre-workout be a good idea.
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At the end of the day do you need to additional kcals / protein in your diet? If so take the shake where you feel it fits best into your eating habits. If you are going to be eating a protein rich meal soon after training I'd just go with that. I think supplements are best used to plug gaps in your diet, not as a must have.
 
I am currently eating 150g of protein on a good day at 196lb body weight so I think I could do with upping the protein wherever I can.
 
Are you open to increasing it by adding more meat or the like to your diet? Otherwise you can take a shake at any point during the day. If as you say you have dinner very quickly after your session I don't see the need for a shake here as it may affect your appetite for your meal.
 
I have had a look - if you plug it all into myfitnesspal or similar and give readings it would be easier to judge. It looks pretty good to me, only questions i have is why do you eat quorn? How much whey is in your shake? what kind of nuts make up your 15g mixed nuts etc?

Like i said - something like myfitnesspal to get a clearer idea of what is what
 
Captain Planet said:
Which is an unsurprising fact that doesn't really answer the issue that was first brought up...


However, the information posted above appears to have answered yes to the following instead
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It did answer the question, and I've explain the science behind it many times.

Go and spend your money on shakes, and eat when the **** you want. I'm just trying to help. Take it or leave it, really doesn't bother me. :)
 
I find Quorn spruces up the omelette a big without having to add anything too bad.

The nuts are almonds/walnuts/brazils I believe.

Added the nutritional info for you in my log, don't want to clutter up this thread with my issues :p
 
OK mate - I will have a look - I am no expert but I have a fairly good grasp on nutrition... not that I always follow it!
 
It's been suggested i take 70g of this 'The Works', that comes out to about 14 servings so they say.

I can't afford to use that much :o
 
4p said:
It's been suggested i take 70g of this 'The Works', that comes out to about 14 servings so they say.

I can't afford to use that much :o
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What do you expect, you bought a premium blend product and so you pay the price of having to use a lot of it to actually get a decent amount of each ingredient.
 
Freefaller said:
Your body does start to work towards being catabolic after a strenuous workout - but your body will not be in a catabolic state for many many hours. Your body will respond to nutrition for up to 24hrs after a work out. It's been researched that taking a shake or food within minutes of finishing your workout is less efficient/effective for protein synthesis as leaving it for up to an hour after training.
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Agreed. That's why I despair at people spending small fortunes on Whey Isolate, hydrolysate, Whey Super Turbo Mega Anabolic XI... does this £50 tub with shiny stickers give you any advantage over regular old £8 per kg WPC 80? Not even 1% if you ask me.

Also people gulping down tons of dextrose and glucose in the name of the magic PWO window, is that really doing anyone any good?

You've got to say the supplement companies play a good game :)
 
Freefaller said:
It did answer the question, and I've explain the science behind it many times.

Go and spend your money on shakes, and eat when the **** you want. I'm just trying to help. Take it or leave it, really doesn't bother me. :)
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Stating that your body will benefit from nutrients consumed up to 24hrs after a workout isn't answering the yes/no question of "should I take my supplement straight after a work out"... and forgive me for not willing to trawl through the plethora of "brah" and "mirin" posts for your scientific explanations :p moody.
 
Chong Warrior said:
Agreed. That's why I despair at people spending small fortunes on Whey Isolate, hydrolysate, Whey Super Turbo Mega Anabolic XI... does this £50 tub with shiny stickers give you any advantage over regular old £8 per kg WPC 80? Not even 1% if you ask me.

Also people gulping down tons of dextrose and glucose in the name of the magic PWO window, is that really doing anyone any good?

You've got to say the supplement companies play a good game :)
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Whether that destrose is needed PWO or not, it's cheap easy calories which is good for me :D
 
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