support for the british worker

fini said:
Just because certain people somehow don't have the ability to get a degree (come on it's not hard) doesn't mean they can't make a success of themselves. Look at all the millionaire entrepreneurs out there without a degree. Not having a degree is not an excuse for working in a fudge packing factory - being fat and lazy is.
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For some people it is though. For other people like the skilled engineers who live near the Lindsey Oil Refinery, they have skills that have been built up over years of work and could be used for this contract that the Italians were awarded, but are unable to use them because the work was outsourced to cheaper foreign workers.
 
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sr4470 said:
Sarcasm. But to answer your question, I would surmise you either a) took a different route or b) couldn't get the funding.
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That's fair enough then, I apologise for being snappy.

Well, I just couldn't carry on doing what I wanted to do after my GCSE's for whatever reason.

6 years later, I'm stuck here trying to think of what to do with my life.
 
You're also unlikely to get a business loan with a) no capital of your own and b) no collateral to offer the bank. Especially in this current climate.

Delvis said:
That's fair enough then, I apologise for being snappy.

Well, I just couldn't carry on doing what I wanted to do after my GCSE's for whatever reason.

6 years later, I'm stuck here trying to think of what to do with my life.
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Civil engineering, electronics\electrics, plumbing all seem like good avenues to consider. Of course speaking about it and getting into it are two different matters. If you're like myself without anything to spare, the free courses at college don't start till September (NVQ2\3). Apprenticeships are fairly thin on the ground but worth a try anyway.
 
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wordy said:
For other people like the skilled engineers who live near the Lindsey Oil Refinery, they have skills that have been built up over years of work and could be used for this contract that the Italians were awarded, but are unable to use them because the work was outsourced to sheaper foreign workers.
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Which is the very cornerstone of an open, competitive, non-discriminative market surely?
 
fini said:
Which is the very cornerstone of an open, competitive, non-discriminative market surely?
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Except businesses do not like competition and want to maximise profit. Thats why, for example, Tesco\Sainsburys have virtually wrapped up the supermarket sector between them. The other firms are token opposition at best, or part of other large chains (Asda and Walmart for example).
 
sr4470 said:
Except businesses do not like competition and want to maximise profit. Thats why, for example, Tesco\Sainsburys have virtually wrapped up the supermarket sector between them. The other firms are token opposition at best, or part of other large chains (Asda and Walmart for example).
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Morrisons, Waitrose are 'token opposition'?
 
I'm not sure what your point is - except to imply that Tesco and Sainsburys are using anti-competitive practices?
 
fini said:
Which is the very cornerstone of an open, competitive, non-discriminative market surely?
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and more uneployment for domestic workers, who now end up on benefits costing the taxpayer more. There aren't many jobs in Britain that couldn't be done cheaper by foreigners, should we all lose our jobs and end up on benefits?
 
sr4470 said:
Civil engineering, electronics\electrics, plumbing all seem like good avenues to consider. Of course speaking about it and getting into it are two different matters. If you're like myself without anything to spare, the free courses at college don't start till September (NVQ2\3). Apprenticeships are fairly thin on the ground but worth a try anyway.
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I'd have to find a college near me that offers free courses in such things though...So it's worth a look I guess.

I can never seem to find decent apprenticeships...As that seems my ideal way of learning something.

I've always preferred learning on the job so to speak.
 
wordy said:
and more uneployment for domestic workers, who now end up on benefits costing the taxpayer more. There aren't many jobs in Britain that couldn't be done cheaper by foreigners, should we all lose our jobs and end up on benefits?
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If a business can cut its staffing costs by finding people willing to do the job at the same quality for cheaper it is their duty to their stockholders to do so. What else would you have - some racist regime of 'no Jonny foreigners allowed'?
 
fini said:
If a business can cut its staffing costs by finding people willing to do the job at the same quality for cheaper it is their duty to their stockholders to do so. What else would you have - some racist regime of 'no Jonny foreigners allowed'?
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Since when has foreign been a race?

Yes I would like to see preference given to Bristish workers for British jobs.
 
Wordy said:
Since when has foreign been a race?

Yes I would like to see preference given to Bristish workers for British jobs.
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Foreign isn't a race, but under all race discrimination laws in this country, judging based on nationality is seen as racist. As such, you are planning to give an unfair advantage to someone purely on the basis that they are British. Such is against national and international law.

How would you feel if you went for a job in London, knew that you were the best qualified for the job, but were told 'sorry, we don't take any of you lot from Rotherham - Londoners only'?
 
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Delvis said:
I'd have to find a college near me that offers free courses in such things though...So it's worth a look I guess.

I can never seem to find decent apprenticeships...As that seems my ideal way of learning something.

I've always preferred learning on the job so to speak.
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Advanced apprenticeships are preferable if you find one (they're a higher level, above A-levels but below degrees, so roughly equivalent to a HND).
 
Delvis said:
*Snip*
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Depends what you want to do, I always fancied learning learning about being a motorbike mechanic, but the only course I found for that was a 3 year one, which is a bit much really.

What about getting a SCA? Or whatever the security guard license is called, believe the course is only a couple of hundred or so and you should be able to find at least some work, while doing some sort of evening learning perhaps?
 
fini said:
Foreign isn't a race, but under all race discrimination laws in this country, judging based on nationality is seen as racist. As such, you are planning to give an unfair advantage to someone purely on the basis that they are British. Such is against national and international law.

How would you feel if you went for a job in London, knew that you were the best qualified for the job, but were told 'sorry, we don't take any of you lot from Rotherham - Londoners only'?
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Thats not the issue though. If you changed it and said what happened if I went for a job in Spain and they said sorry we've got a Spaniard to do the job.

I'd think same as I do in the case of British jobs for British workers, thinking anything else would make me a hypocrite.
 
wordy said:
Thats not the issue though. If you changed it and said what happened if I went for a job in spain and they said sorry we've got a Spaniard to do the job.
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It is the issue though - it's irrationally discriminating between people based on where they live. What difference is there between discriminating between people based on their country of residence and their town of residence?
 
Thanks for the reply rstad and sr4470....I'll have to try looking for something near me...cause these job sites are doing me no good what so ever.
 
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