PS: Considering the ramifications of that referendum, and the ever-declining position in which it renders us, shouldn't there be a recurring referendum on say a 5 or 10 yearly basis to prevent people in the present suffering the consequences of decisions taken before their time? That is, afterall, why we have general elections (in principle at least!)
The Voice from a foreign worker in the UK:
I agree in part with you. I know that many foreigners just come here for money and to take advantage of some benefits, then they go back to their countries.
But that is only part of the story.
As a foreigner, I can see every day that I do work with a better quality than most of my colleagues (nationals) at work.
Also as a foreigner, in the last two years I have contributed with my qualified work and taxes to this country, even more than many nationals.
For me it is sad to see here in the UK, that lots of young people don't go to Uni, or even they don't finish College. I have a degree in IT, in one of the Unis with the best reputation in South America. And only here in England I have seen that many people are at positions of "managers" even when they have just a basic education.
I think that the best thing British people (specially young people) can do, is to study and to work offering quality.
Young people/Brits, just study, and offer quality in everything you do, that is the best way to compete.
I despise this debate, I really do. As generally those who are "British jobs for British workers" generally follow the general trend of:
1) lower skilled jobs
2) don't have the ability to adapt to change
3) have no understanding about the economic benefits of comparative advantage.
I would rather follow the model of comparative advantage - with free trade and those who have the best skills at conducting a particular activity doing so.
The upside of this policy, is that it would force the country to become a highly skilled/educated and help not just on the job front but many other elements in society.
[TW]Fox;13399350 said:Thats handy, because they no longer need too - there are two seperate loans offered, one for day to day living costs and another for the increased tuition fees. The parents need not pay any of the fees at all if they dont want to.
Handy that, eh?
Exactly, the tidal wave of "British work for British people" should examine why they (most likely) go to shops and buy the south american fruit/vegetables and other produce from around the globe. Capitalism is great when it saves you money firsthand, but when that same economic force creates a perfectly understandable business decision to go for the cheaper labour option a storm is created.
[TW]Fox;13399391 said:Manufacturing becomes less sustainable the more a country develops. The more a country develops, the higher the standard of living of its citizens. The higher the standard of living of its citizens, the higher the wages they demand. The higher the wages they demand, the higher the cost of having a manufacturing base in the country and the higher the cost of the products the country manufacturers.
Taken from another thread.
Does it matter? Or is that job not good enough?
[TW]Fox;13399676 said:Japan is a special case, there is a completely different culture there. Germany is hugely trade protectionist...
THE most ridiculous sentence in this thread.
How can you not have the skills to learn skills?
Basically what you're saying is people who are not willing to learn or educate themselves deserve an honest days pay.
A quote from another forum that rang some truth to me. People do not have a right to a job, they must work to get and keep one.
Add to that, with the onset of competition to better the market there are casualties, such is life.
It is wrong to stereotype, of course, but there is no smoke without fire.

If anything my experience tells me that the stereotype has some truth. We work closely with our offices in Germany and they just seem to do a higher standard of work than our offices. One thing I will say though, our managers are very good.