Since when as competency been the factor here? I remember working in a college were all the qualified staff were replaced by less qualified workers simply because the institution could get away with paying them 50% less.
Last edited:
support for the british worker
- Thread starter LabR@t
- Start date
Since when as competency been the factor here? I remember working in a college were all the qualified staff were replaced by less qualified workers simply because the institution could get away with paying them 50% less.
your muddling multi points there, obviously I am not referring to the same person.
depends on what level of skill you are talking about what do you class as a skilled job?
some people are only suited to manual work as they just dont have the IQ to attain a high level of education, but thus does not make them any less useful to the country. we cannot have country full of bankers,scientists and professionals
depends on what level of skill you are talking about what do you class as a skilled job?
some people are only suited to manual work as they just dont have the IQ to attain a high level of education, but thus does not make them any less useful to the country. we cannot have country full of bankers,scientists and professionals
Exactly, there's been no suggestion that this has all been brought about because we didn't have the skills in the UK, it's purely because the Italians can do it for cheaper. In some ways I can symathise with Total here - at least Italy is in the EU with a comparable standard of living. In my industry (IT) the norm has been for companies to illegally bring in Indian IT workers to the country to do a job that could be done by a Brit - they get away with it because the IT industry isn't unionised. I say good on the strikers for bringing this shameful practise to everyone's attention.
![[TW]Fox](/data/man-of-honor/2009.png){kind=avatar}
Well clearly it does if we can afford to make them redundant?
Permabanned
- Joined
- 23 Dec 2008
- Posts
- 16
- Location
- UK (Stoke on Trent)
Talking about costs: as a foreigner (from a poor country) I know the real meaning of the phrase "how much it costs". If you compare the UK with many other countries, believe me that people are really spoiled here, even with the crisis in the economy that we have.
Here crisis means: not being able to buy as much as in the past or not being able to run your car any more.
In other countries crisis means: being able to survive every day or not, or having a piece of bread to share with your whole family.
Many British people have to change their attitude, to do efforts, get educated and fight for this country.
Possibly so, but if the workers were Indian and this was quite regular. Surely, the government should have a say in the preference of awarding contracts in defence of British jobs by subsidising the workers pay, or upskilling them if necessary, or allowing foreign firms the award of contract tenders which are very competitive but on the basis that British workers are employed
Surely, the government should have a say in the preference of awarding contracts in defence of British jobs by subsidising the workers pay, or upskilling them if necessary, or allowing foreign firms the award of contract tenders which are very competitive but on the basis that British workers are employed
Uhhh, I would be more for keeping the government off out of our private business, its a nasty road to communism, and we all know how that ends up.
[TW]Fox;13400163 said:
What happens to people that are made redundant? Imagine making 1,000 people made redundant in a town, would the french care?
JSA for the win/lose
Thatcher? Trains, they are run on time are not over crowded and are value for money.
Nice to know we import our coal, which produces a third of our energy, Thatcher could have done one thing right for this generation, open the mines, [TW]Fox down t'pit wit budgie by eck lad.
Last edited:
Yeah urm this thread really needs to be closed for pretty simple idiocy, protectionism, blaming other nationalities and using this pretty small argument as a big reason to bring back to the table legal racisim just isnt good in any respect.
As far as im away the contract for the Italian workers was signed 6 months ago, when there was a shortage of local labour for the specific job....
And as for blaming the EU/globalisation, i honistly think that this utterly ridiculous! Britains biggist mistake in the post war period was not joining in with the EU project in the 50's, shown by econmic collaps in the 70's.....
Anyway kudos to anyone who can honistly see that trying to be all nationalist to get out of this crysis is a flawed idea.
As far as im away the contract for the Italian workers was signed 6 months ago, when there was a shortage of local labour for the specific job....
And as for blaming the EU/globalisation, i honistly think that this utterly ridiculous! Britains biggist mistake in the post war period was not joining in with the EU project in the 50's, shown by econmic collaps in the 70's.....
Anyway kudos to anyone who can honistly see that trying to be all nationalist to get out of this crysis is a flawed idea.
Ireland first country in the world to hit dire recession.
I find it funny that you can lecture anyone.
Apart from call centres, docks and pubs what does thee offer to the world?
Geography lessons? Belfast's in Northern Ireland, you're talking about the Republic of Ireland.
LOL!
You fail to note that im British (from england and only up here for uni) and the slight constitutional status of Northern Irealand being in the uk bringing belfast with it.... (as nicely pointed out)
Also wasnt Iceland hit HARD a few months ago.....
before Irelands collapsed...... (sorry double rolly eyes does feel nessessary)Oh and urm you know quite a few computing based companies have offices, call centers and productions plants both sides of the boarder here. Seagate make hard drives off the M2 motor way up here and Gateway have the whole assembly for bits of europe in the republic (never seen the made in Ireland sticker on the old gateway towers or current laptops).
So im not sure its quite fair to lump a bit national stereo type on a country just because you dont know what it produces economically or brush away any of the problems hilighted by some of the ignorence in the thread....
show me where it tells you it was signed 6 months ago.
just watch our fellow 'eu' members do just that and lock out british workers from their jobs. Its always the same Us brits try to play by the rules whilst the others do want they want while laughing at us british for doing the right thing.
Look how we are charged so much more than other member states for gas its all imported from the same place, just as usual our core services are owned by a foreign companys who see us as an easty target for revenue.
Last edited:
Becuase imported coal is cheaper than mining our own. If we mined our own you would complain about higher energy costs.
I don't get this statement. You are advocating that we in the UK 'lock out' foreign workers. If this policy was in place then it is more likely that foreign nations would lock out UK workers tit-for-tat.
This has nothing to do with the debate for foreign workers - you appear to be clutching at straws in your argument. However for the purposes of this thread, you'll find that commodities such as gas and electricity are subsidised (or there are price controls in effect) in many other countries. Like I said, this has nothing to do with the debate for foreign workers - it is a trade subsidy/commodity pricing issue.
You fail at knowing where NI is
.And NI has a good amount of industry for the size of the place.
I'm alright, screw everyone else seems to the sentiment in this country today and it's a shame. Jobs in Britain should go to British workers if they have the skills to do them, as is the case regarding Total. How much is it going to cost to keep these people who are perfectly able to do skilled engineering jobs on the dole as opposed to them working and paying taxes?
My boss said the other day there aren't enough socialist values left in this country anymore, and I agree with him.
My boss said the other day there aren't enough socialist values left in this country anymore, and I agree with him.