Sustained high speed damaging?

The funny thing is, people have spoken here about cars being designed for speed, yet, did anyone see the Spanish Top Gear trip where the Ferrari basically had been eaten away by the surface dust on the runway?

Unsure if it was exaggerated or not, but still!

Scripted.
 
I have the feeling my 530D would sit at 155mph all day long if the road allowed. I saw an indicated 200mph on my GT3 and to be honest, it was a handful and kept me focused on the A50....I mean Autobahn.
 
I kick the **** out of my clio around a track all day and don't bat an eyelid, yet i've taken it to 147mph once and never again, because my mind is telling me surely that hammering the pistons along at max rpm (in my clio anyway) for long periods of time can't be good at all.

The alpina on the other hand seemed perfectly capable of cruising along at 150. The engine wasn't screaming and it didn't feel like it was struggling, but then it has got double the horse power and another gear over the clio :p
 
I kick the **** out of my clio around a track all day and don't bat an eyelid, yet i've taken it to 147mph once and never again, because my mind is telling me surely that hammering the pistons along at max rpm (in my clio anyway) for long periods of time can't be good at all.

The alpina on the other hand seemed perfectly capable of cruising along at 150. The engine wasn't screaming and it didn't feel like it was struggling, but then it has got double the horse power and another gear over the clio :p

I've taken the clio to a similar speed, and it didn't feel good. Once was enough.
 
I've taken the clio to a similar speed, and it didn't feel good. Once was enough.

Depends on the road/track surface. I've been at the rev limit in 5th on mine too (145gps, 150indicated) and it was relatively stable... More stable than my 1.2 at 80mph.
 
150 in the 535d is a comfortable 3500 RPM - I'm not sure very much different is going on for the engine at high speed vs. normal speed!
Depends on the road/track surface. I've been at the rev limit in 5th on mine too (145gps, 150indicated) and it was relatively stable... More stable than my 1.2 at 80mph.
What's the ST rev limit?
 
I sustained 165mph indicated for a while on an er, autobahn and nobody died. I did 145mph into Spa in my 175,000 mile S-Class and again, no bad things.

More wear for sure but it isn't going to kill the car unless you're doing it day in, day out.
 
My impreza doesn't like top speed runs. The scoop becomes rather redundant as the air passes over rather than into. Intake temps rise very fast around 120mph.
 
From my experience motorways are pretty easy on engine life. It's short journeys and cold start that does the damage.

120mph cruise only needs about 100hp in most cars. Well below the rated power of a car that would be happy to cruise there. Plenty of cooling airflow too.

Plus it's piston deposits rather than wear that are the issue if any here.

Exactly this.

If I sat at 155mph in my M3 or 911, its engine would not be anywhere near full capacity, it would be cruising and it would have huge amounts of airflow getting to radiators keeping everything cooler than normal.

OK its not the same as being flat out at 175-190mph with foot wedged to the floor, but still at such speeds the engine is getting exceptional cooling and its in a straight line on what should be a smooth road.

Your suspension gets more abuse on a pot holed or speed bump filled road or going for a country road blast. Your engine will see more wear on a cold start up and being thrashed or hard acceleration through the gears going to rev limiter in each gear.

Cruising at 150mph on the autobahn should not damage anything if the car is well maintained. :)
 
150 in the 535d is a comfortable 3500 RPM - I'm not sure very much different is going on for the engine at high speed vs. normal speed!


Its note quite that simple, wind resistance is quite a force at those speeds Not that i can work it out mind :) but there are tables out there that suggest you need ~10x more horsepower to overcome the drag at 150mph in comparison to 70mph. (12bhp vs 145hp)

Fag packet maths would probably puts a 200bhp car to what must be close to 100% load @150mph when you factor in mechanical losses as well.

All that aside i would be interested in seeing failure rates of engines that are held at high loads for lengths of times, surely manufacturers go through this process when testing engine/car designs?
 
I used to regularly do 100mph+ in my mk1 Mondeo. 3am-5am Liverpool > Hertfordshire. It didn't complain at all. It did complain when I stopped doing that and moved to London, where it did 2 years of 50 miles a month all <5 miles and cold starts. It fell to bits.
 
That sounds like a cheaper and more reasonable option. I'd rather spend my money on a front mount intercooler instead and then I get to play the "It's always been there, luv" game :)

haha "uh yea....I just shifted it to the front"

"by why is there still one on top?"

"oh that's just part of it...i urmmmmm split it" :p

watch out for that gf/wife aggro xD
 
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