Swansea
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If you can remember Swansea, you weren't really there.
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Is it just a guy thing when you are in another city or town and a bit boozed up and you end up walking around thinking you are better than the place acting all...add word here
As an old man who grew up in Swansea, I am also disgusted with the behavior of the teenagers AND the jeering adults.
First of all, seven police officers were hurt at the scene by bottles and bricks thrown.
Secondly, this was not a new problem for the council areas of Swansea, as many residents have constantly complained for months (and years) about anti-social behavior.
The areas of Blaenymaes, Townhill, Mayhill, Penlan, etc. always had a reputation of tribal gang culture, even when I was a young lad living in the Swansea Valleys during the 80's. They were always known as Police 'No-Go' areas as the youngsters were notorious for vandalism and joyriding (often setting alight the cars on Kilvey Hill). We used to joke that Bonymaen was twinned with Beruit!
Since I have left South Wales (30 years ago), South Wales has become prosperous with massive amounts of European & UK funding spent in local regional developments, to improve housing, jobs and amenities in the Twin Cities (Swansea & Cardiff). Enough for money was spent, that the Welsh Assembly (now Sennedd) could have built a dual carriage from Camarthen to Caernarfon and still be pathed in gold! But that's another story.
So, irrespective of lack of police presence or social culture lack of jobs blaming etc. the problems have always layed with the rioters, their guardians and the senior managers who manage the police. The areas should never be feared by the local residents, the anti-social behavior should never have been overlooked or given lesser sentences by the courts, the teenagers and younger kids should never have been allowed to congregate at late night, AND the adults should have known better to not allow such disgraceful behavior happen. But when the adults were able to do similar things when they were younger and got away with it, and their parents before them, do we expect the youngest generations to learn what is respect and decency?
First of all, seven police officers were hurt at the scene by bottles and bricks thrown.
Secondly, this was not a new problem for the council areas of Swansea, as many residents have constantly complained for months (and years) about anti-social behavior.
The areas of Blaenymaes, Townhill, Mayhill, Penlan, etc. always had a reputation of tribal gang culture, even when I was a young lad living in the Swansea Valleys during the 80's. They were always known as Police 'No-Go' areas as the youngsters were notorious for vandalism and joyriding (often setting alight the cars on Kilvey Hill). We used to joke that Bonymaen was twinned with Beruit!
Since I have left South Wales (30 years ago), South Wales has become prosperous with massive amounts of European & UK funding spent in local regional developments, to improve housing, jobs and amenities in the Twin Cities (Swansea & Cardiff). Enough for money was spent, that the Welsh Assembly (now Sennedd) could have built a dual carriage from Camarthen to Caernarfon and still be pathed in gold! But that's another story.
So, irrespective of lack of police presence or social culture lack of jobs blaming etc. the problems have always layed with the rioters, their guardians and the senior managers who manage the police. The areas should never be feared by the local residents, the anti-social behavior should never have been overlooked or given lesser sentences by the courts, the teenagers and younger kids should never have been allowed to congregate at late night, AND the adults should have known better to not allow such disgraceful behavior happen. But when the adults were able to do similar things when they were younger and got away with it, and their parents before them, do we expect the youngest generations to learn what is respect and decency?
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I read this on the news today, showing short video clips of house fronts (doors and windows) being smashed in, police cars being bricked and civilian cars being torched. It was a bit cagey on the motive though. Do the houses / cars belong to gang members and they're being attacked by rival gangs?
No. Not unless 90 year old women are gang members.
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Too busy investigating mean tweets, putting rainbow stickers on police cars, dancing in parades, hiring 4ft 5" on the beat officers, kneeling for marxist organisations or shouting political slogans.
Yeh lost a bit of respect much.
Yeh lost a bit of respect much.
They took 5 hours to turn up to site when we had a lady acting odd (mental health), turns out they had been looking for her since 9 am as she had escaped from morriston hospital.
They didn't piece together that a site within walking distance has reported a lady matching her description could potentially be the person they were looking for...
but they'll be ready to pull you over at 3 am because they confuse a sat nav with me being on my phone. who the **** am i going to ring at 3am??
This is why all officers should be armed with firearms and crap like this would have been stopped far sooner. If this was US officers responding I bet some of those rioters would have been shot and rightfully so and I don't bloody care how old they are. Most likely they'll be let off as usual if they even manage to catch one.
Yeah, that's working well in the US.
The problem is that they're allowed to propagate and procreate. It's only ever going to continue in that area unless something is done about it.
Currently in West Wales visiting my mum, have to double take when local kids say hello to you. In London I expect no response, verbal abuse or something worse in more extreme situations.
But with a population of 3,000 (yet still the third biggest town in the county
), everything is much more local which I like.
But with a population of 3,000 (yet still the third biggest town in the county
), everything is much more local which I like.I’ve not found many places when I go for a walk where people don’t answer me when I give them a cheery “good morning.
Except Hook in Hampshire. I’ve stayed at the hotel next to the station many times and always gone for an early walk around the estate next door. Those people are grumpy, the most grumpy I’ve ever experienced when going for an early morning walk.
Except Hook in Hampshire. I’ve stayed at the hotel next to the station many times and always gone for an early walk around the estate next door. Those people are grumpy, the most grumpy I’ve ever experienced when going for an early morning walk.
100% this.
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I think it depends on the town. Most of the places I've done this really were absolute **** holes, mainly because they were garrison towns full of boozed-up squaddies walking around thinking they were better than the place!
The problem with the police is it has become a middle class job, you now need a degree to become one.
Gone are the days of working class lads being coppers, so instead of guys that could handle the situation we now risk assessments that prevent cops from stoping riots...
Gone are the days of working class lads being coppers, so instead of guys that could handle the situation we now risk assessments that prevent cops from stoping riots...
I live about a mile away from where this occurred, and it was literally 30/40 teenagers and a few hangers on, ****** up on a street corner. Some of the news reports crying "riots" were massively hyped. Behaviour was bang out of order and hopefully more arrests will be made but I guess the media needed a story now violence in NI has subsided a bit and Coronavirus is not big news anymore.