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Swapping from 5800x to 5700x3d….nuts or not

MikeB

MikeB

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Have a 5800x, not a pc power user, game at superwide 1440p.

Would a 5700x3d help in gaming, keep reading about those 1% lows, reckon by time I imported the 5700x3d and sold the 5800x I’d be about 70 quid down, seems a decent way to hold on until A full upgrade to 9800x3d

Running a 3080, plan to buy a 5070/5080.

All advice welcome
 
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It's a bit faster in most games (chrck the Gamers Nexus review for detail) and slower in productivity and anything single thread due to clock speed.

Is that worth £80 ? Although you can likely pick up a 5700x3d for closer to £140 if you don't mind buying from overseas.
 
I went from a 5600x to a 5700x3d and there's a noticeable improvement. Not massive but average FPS appears more consistent and the lows are less obvious on the few games I play.

It's often game dependent.....compared to a 5800x some games like CSGO 2 and Warzone get nice boost but then there's other like Forza and Cyberpunk 2077 which are lucky to get a few additional frames.

One of the things with the 5700x3d that doesn't get mentioned is it has trouble with 1900mhz infinity fabric. I've had to re-examine my RAM overclocking to get it stable running just under that wall. It's also really limited in overclockability so if you've got a good 5800x running high clocks and tight RAM above 1900mhz fabric you may not get as much of a gain out of the 5700x3d in comparison.
With that said though the 5700x3d undervolts like a champ and runs real cool.
 
Thanks for response all, my onlyo/c is via auto, I tend not to muck about too much.

Advice seems to be, not worth it, will wait for a full upgrade I guess
 
It depends on the games you play, you should see an uplift in most. Some games wont care about the extra cache at all, but there are some that absolutely love it and it can make a massive difference in.

I'd say it's worth it if you play a lot of the following: Sims, grand strategy 4x type games (so a huge chunk of Paradox's library like Stellaris and CK2) and RTS, MMO's like WoW, some shooters such as Warzone.

If you've a number of main or favourite games you play a lot of, it's worth looking into whether or not they benefit and how much.
 
MikeB said:
Right now frostpunk, COD, AoE, BD3 very eclectic mix
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If it's CoD Warzone you should see much more consistent frames as your minimums will go up. I've seen a few people with your exact current spec do the same upgrade and seriously benefit.

Frostpunk and AoE might well see a healthy improvement too, but I'd double check to be sure before pulling the trigger.

Tbh, for the amount it'll cost after selling your current CPU I think it's a healthy investment.
 
If you're 5800x is regularly maxed out then it's a bottleneck and needs replacing. However, if its mostly around 50% usage then you won't see any difference at all.

Check your CPU usage and get to know and understand your computer.
 
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CuriousTomCat said:
If you're 5800x is regularly maxed out then it's a bottleneck and needs replacing. However, if its mostly around 50% usage then you won't see any difference at all.

Check your CPU usage and get to know and understand your computer.
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This isn't true and hasn't been for some time.

Some processors simply cannot provide the resources required for modern games while using that metric, they'll not show as maxed out but that's partly because they themselves are bottlenecked in a sense.

X3D cache (aka larger L3) can work absolute wonders in scenarios where other areas cannot.
 
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With the resale on the 5800X and the extremely competitive pricing on the 5700X3D, I'd probably go for it.
It wont be world shattering differences, and I guess in some non-gaming aspects performance could be worse. Every little helps though!
 
ATIorNvidia said:
£70 upgrade? I wouldn't
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It's probably the most effective upgrade at this point. 5600x are selling for around £90 on the fleabay, probably dropping a bit each day. Maybe you sell the 5800x and get £75-80 after fee's. 5700x3d is about £130 delivered but will need to wait 2 weeks for it. (don't forget to use a 'cashback' site to get 5% discount and if you're not a member you can get referred by a friend to get sign up bonus)

£60-70 for a 10-20 fps increase, or spend £600-700 now on AM5 and unlikely to get a 100-200 fps increase there. When the 9800x3d's are released they won't be cheap, I imagine close to £500 given how much life is still left in the older gen and people keep buying them up.

I'm hoping my 5700x3d ties me over until AM6 and then splurge on that platform.
 
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Joe Jones said:
£60-70 for a 10-20 fps increase, or spend £600-700 now on AM5 and unlikely to get a 100-200 fps increase there. When the 9800x3d's are released they won't be cheap, I imagine close to £500 given how much life is still left in the older gen and people keep buying them up.

I'm hoping my 5700x3d ties me over until AM6 and then splurge on that platform.
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The % increase would paint a clearer picture of the gains you'd expect, 10-20fps doesn't mean anything on it's own. The alternative doesn't have to be spending £600 on AM5, he could just keep the 5800X because the gains would be extremely dependant on the title, and for general usage, productivity it's worse.

All this is assuming the 1% lows are actually causing a problem that the 5700X3D is gong to noticeably fix.
 
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