UWP (if done right) isn't a bad idea in itself and I don't have a problem if it is the principle interface layer for the general consumer - but Windows has always been much more than just the curated layer and a lot of people do use it precisely because it isn't that curated experience.
Sweeney: Microsoft Will Force-patch Windows 10 To Make Steam Progressively Worse And More Broken
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UWP (if done right) isn't a bad idea in itself and I don't have a problem if it is the principle interface layer for the general consumer - but Windows has always been much more than just the curated layer and a lot of people do use it precisely because it isn't that curated experience.
I tried Forza Apex. The god damn thing does not even let me install it where I want to. All I could select (and had to do it before even starting the download, deep in windows settings) was which partition I wanted to install it. AND then it did not even respect the choice and installed on my SSD drive.
Worst store ever without hyperbole.
Worst store ever without hyperbole.
Store/UWP stumbled from the start - so many basic, foreseeable things missing or ineptly implemented - for instance things like a proper V-Sync implementation is pretty fundamental part of that kind of platform - something you can accept not being in an alpha or beta build but no excuses for not having it nailed down come prime time (if it was a one off thing it could be written off as a bug/mistake/oversight but it isn't). It is like 2-3 decades worth of experience and vision has simply vanished at Microsoft.
Obviously not worked in IT retail lately have you?
Windows 10 issues every where, everyday when it first was a free upgrade.
When non-techies are in charge of their computer, it goes wrong often.
More money for us though.
It's not faster in any way though, there were a few benchmarks that had it loading slower(generally) and performing worse in some games but I really can't be bothered as much as you are to prove otherwise
I don't think the curatedness-or-not is factor in it being popular, it's just been ubiquitous and for a very long time the best general purpose desktop OS around (best being strictly relative).
The curated Windows Store is a big plus for the average user imo. Win32 just sucks as a platform for delivering and managing desktop apps to non-technical users. I won't let the other half have admin rights on my PC, but still occasionally she needs some software or other so I have to check it over, virus scan etc....pain the backside. I'd much rather just let them use the Windows Store and not chaperone the damn thing.
Now the current implementation of UWP interface and technically is a bit crap at the moment, but that will improve. The principle is good, execution a bit lacking.
I'm a big fan of Epic (I run their UE user group here) but I do think Sweeney is being a bit melodramatic, but I guess you need people making these statements to keep them on the ball.
Obviously not worked in IT retail lately have you?
Windows 10 issues every where, everyday when it first was a free upgrade.
When non-techies are in charge of their computer, it goes wrong often.
More money for us though.
It's not faster in any way though, there were a few benchmarks that had it loading slower(generally) and performing worse in some games but I really can't be bothered as much as you are to prove otherwise
Retail, no, infrastructure engineer so rarely touch/fiddle with OS's to a level of normal support. I admit, I've been a bit naive in this. I'm looking at it from a standpoint of a Joe Bloggs user. So apologies to all if I came over a bit strong on my opinions.
I understand guys like us (gamers, technies and tinkerers alike) want less of a tighter grip. But in my opinion, the grip is easily avoided with 15 minutes tinkering. The forced updates are cack yes.
Done properly the Windows store would be good - there is a lot I would use it for - i.e. if I could quickly and easily deploy my main software environment anywhere at any time i.e. setting up a new PC.
Problem is that is true of just about everything with Windows 10 - great ideas in principle but the execution is largely lacking and it does raise questions when they can't even get the fundamental most important aspects of a feature right out the gate - in any other industry/business it would be raise significant questions why your developers were apparently feeling around in the dark when it comes to bread and butter functionality.
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Well I'll believe it when Steam suddenly stops working....
....Which it won't, because this is most likely rubbish.
....Which it won't, because this is most likely rubbish.
It can happen as MS can (force) roll out a new branch every 4 months if they please. Only versions exempt from this crap are Enterprise LTSB versions of Win10 (or well, exempt. for 10 years anyhow).
Windows 10 update allows little to stop this, best you can do is disable the service altogether.
If it will happen, I doubt it, it will undoubtedly cause an uproar.
Windows 10 update allows little to stop this, best you can do is disable the service altogether.
If it will happen, I doubt it, it will undoubtedly cause an uproar.
More of a "I'm a long time 'PC is an open platform' hardcore type and I will adamantly fight against anything that I think *might* threaten that down the line somewhere" type thing.
His heart is in the right place, but like many people in that situation, they dont always come to the most reasonable conclusions.
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Has he got ANY evidence to back this up?
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This is an entirely bizarre point of view when talking about technology
Just because something isn't broken, doesn't mean it can't be improved.
Thankfully not everyone feels the same way, otherwise we'd still be messing around with IRQ settings in DOS (or living in caves
)Improving yes, my idea of improving is more done with less clicks/ticks, not hiding ''advanced'' features under more menu's en submenu's.
Also, the update settings are appalling, for Home it may be acceptable, but for pro or enterprise (especially LTSB), unacceptable. And the GPO settings don't seem to properly override the new update application.
Also, the update settings are appalling, for Home it may be acceptable, but for pro or enterprise (especially LTSB), unacceptable. And the GPO settings don't seem to properly override the new update application.
Exactly what was said when going from every version to the next, by choice or by necessity.. MS will only let you buy so much enhanced service before pulling the plug and XP's plug has been pulled...(my nightmare with NT server would make people's toes curl) that's another story.. So it may well have been a great OS (it truly was) but is no longer fit for purpose.
I have not been involved in the roll out of Win 10 so can't comment but I have not had any trouble at all setting up win 10 to my liking, both updates and privacy...
Back on topic, I can't find anything on this from value themselves...Has anybody seen anything??? Or is this just Tim Sweeney's opinion??
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