Switching from OLED to Projection.. anyone done it?

[aoaaron]

Agreed. Around 110"-120" is as small (sounds silly saying small with these sizes) as I'd consider vs. the larger OLEDs. My main point was that before OLED/4k/HDR, the difference in PQ wasn't as pronounced between panel and projection and pj setups under 100" made more sense. These days, not so much. The lines will get even more blurred as OLEDs, or whatever replaces them, get bigger. What about when we get 100" panels? Currently, unless you're prepared to drop a decent chunk of money on front projection with screens over a certain size, I don't think it's worth it.

An 88'' OLED panel is £30,000. I think we're pretty far away (years) from the 100'' panel being availble for under £30,000.

And even an 88'' panel is tiny compared to a 110'' screen. http://www.displaywars.com/88-inch-16x9-vs-110-inch-16x9
Especially if we smack some letterbox content on it.

I think 110-120'' is the sweet spot because the bigger the screen, the lower the brightness, and in PJ world we need brightness for HDR and options for dynamic tone mapping to look good.

The only 'larger' OLEDs I can think of are the 77 (£4000-£6000) and the 88 panel (£30000).

I don't consider a 65'' OLED big at all, especially compared to projection. http://www.displaywars.com/65-inch-16x9-vs-110-inch-16x9


I do agree in that the gap with HDR content is bigger than what it was with plasma. I think an ALR screen + a good projector would = with the lights off a plasma picture, there or there abouts. Now you need to treat your room and buy a JVC projector probably to get close to the OLED black levels. Also dynamic iris is now not as useful.. we need high contrast panels to map HDR and cannot rely on just closing the iris.

 

[aoaaron]

Makes sense man and 75" is hardly small. Much of this is subjective, but after owning a bunch of pjs and 5-6 screens of varying budget (diy, bought, high gain, neutral, white, grey), I feel if you're not in a treated room (or have an expensive alr screen - which have their own downsides) with a screen over a certain size, it's not worth the hassle.

Great point. I just got a deal for a 110’nch alr screen Which is ceiling mounted and electric tab tensioned for 450 quid so I’m good to go.

I think a lot about projection is timing on the second hand market, there were plenty of x7900 going for 2.5k a year ago and now no where to be seen.

best time to buy a projection will be next year as they all refresh then. Its super expensive needs a lot of space so I understand people’s apprehension regarding getting into it.

 

[aoaaron]

Sounds like a good deal on the screen. Yeah, the second hand market can be great with pjs, or buying stock close to eol. The x7900 is very nice. You're right about the expense and there's also the hassle. Some people don't like being in a dark enviroment whan watching movies, or tinkering with kit to get it just right. I do think the writinmg is on the wall for pjs tho. Next 10 years or so? If/when it happens it'll be a shame. People talk about the superior PQ offered by panels based on measurements, but there's something that's just nicer, more analogue and real about a projected image. It doesn't matter how much you dial in a current panel, there's always a digital look.

I agree. If we can shift panel sizes to 100-110'', I think anything outside of people who can house gigantic 150'' screens is gone.

However, I'm not sure if manufacturers will want to produce panels that big. I think its too costly and they'd rather stick to the 55-75'' screen sizes.

I also do agree. Projector motion and image quality is something a digital panel can't easily recrearte.

 

[aoaaron]

ALR screens with bright content are awesome.

Very dark content I do think they fall apart.