Synology Nas DS411j - Adding A Full HDD From Windows Pc

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I bought a second hand synology ds411j and 2 x 2tb WD red drives. I managed to configure the drives and share them so i can access them from my laptop. I wanted to add a third 1tb drive from my pc which is full of movies and music, when i try to add it as a volume i am told my files will be lost so i did not proceed.

Is it possible to copy the files from my 1tb to one of the 2tb drives using the DSM software or do i have to put the 1tb drive back into my pc.
 
Simplest way would be to get a SATA to USB interface and use that to plug the 1TB drive into the back and then use file station or whatever it is to copy off the external drive - won't be particularly fast though.

I'm also not sure if the DS411 has enough power on the USB ports for drives like this - might need a USB interface that has external power.

It is one thing I find quite annoying with these QNAP/Synology devices is that there is no simple way to plug a drive with data already on it into the device internally.
 
Rroff said:
Simplest way would be to get a SATA to USB interface and use that to plug the 1TB drive into the back and then use file station or whatever it is to copy off the external drive - won't be particularly fast though.

I'm also not sure if the DS411 has enough power on the USB ports for drives like this - might need a USB interface that has external power.

It is one thing I find quite annoying with these QNAP/Synology devices is that there is no simple way to plug a drive with data already on it into the device internally.
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Thanks for the reply. That sucks, i dont have a sata/usb adapter. I have a usb2 300gb external drive that i can use but as you say that will be painfully slow. I added one of the 2tb drives to my pc but windows does not recognise it so that wont work. Would connecting my pc to the nas via a network cable be faster than using the external usb2 drive?
 
Depends - if you get a gigabit network connection between the PC and NAS it would likely be faster than USB. If you are directly connecting it you will need to manually configure and use static IPs I think though the NAS might be able to work as a DHCP server I'm not sure on that.
 
Rroff said:
Depends - if you get a gigabit network connection between the PC and NAS it would likely be faster than USB. If you are directly connecting it you will need to manually configure and use static IPs I think though the NAS might be able to work as a DHCP server I'm not sure on that.
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It says i have a gigabit Ethernet controller. Is copy and paste a slow method? Im not clued up on using static ip's.

I have got it copying from my pc to the nas drive and its rate is 10 MB/second. At the same time im copying from the external driving using the nas's usb port. It is still very slow even doing the 2 things at once, neither seems to be slowing the other down though.

Does using static ip's make it faster?
 
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Not sure about the IP's but making sure it's connected via a decent cable via something like a switch or direct to your router would be advised.

Have you tested using the upload feature in file station?

Just reading a review they tested writing a 10Gb mkv which was a steady 18Mbs while reading at 36Mbs. Smaller files would be alittle lower.

http://www.kitguru.net/tech-news/announcements/zardon/synology-diskstation-ds411j-review/4/

I would jump on your router and see if both the pc and the nas are both saying they have a gigabit connection.
 
I'd recommend slowly copying over an Ethernet connections - the drive may be formatted to work with the NAS only, which is why windows warned you about file loss if you tried to mount it in windows.
 
.:SAmSuNG:. said:
Not sure about the IP's but making sure it's connected via a decent cable via something like a switch or direct to your router would be advised.

Have you tested using the upload feature in file station?

Just reading a review they tested writing a 10Gb mkv which was a steady 18Mbs while reading at 36Mbs. Smaller files would be alittle lower.

http://www.kitguru.net/tech-news/announcements/zardon/synology-diskstation-ds411j-review/4/

I would jump on your router and see if both the pc and the nas are both saying they have a gigabit connection.
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I have a couple of 2m yellow Ethernet cables, going from the pc and nas directly to the bt hub. Im getting 10MB/s when moving the files from the pc to the nas. I get 3MB/s using the nas upload feature. I get 18MB/s if i plug in my usb2 external drive to the nas. I have a fresh install of windows 7 and i have the newest atheros drivers for my network card. My pc is not high spec so i dont know if that matters much.

does this help with regards to the speeds the router is seeing for each device?

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Habakkuk said:
I'd recommend slowly copying over an Ethernet connections - the drive may be formatted to work with the NAS only, which is why windows warned you about file loss if you tried to mount it in windows.
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Yes it seems to be the case, it will only work with the nas, its when i put my windows formatted drive it, the nas wont use it, it wants to format it and wipe the files, so this method cant be used.
 
If your only connected at 100Mbit your not going to get very good speeds. My NAS when running all wired 1000Mbit gets 110mbs max but that's a more powerful system.

My router gives info on if the devices are connected at 100 of 1000 Mbits.
 
ubersonic said:
What model of BT hub do you have? the older ones were only 100Mbit.
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the newest bt smart hub

.:SAmSuNG:. said:
If your only connected at 100Mbit your not going to get very good speeds. My NAS when running all wired 1000Mbit gets 110mbs max but that's a more powerful system.

My router gives info on if the devices are connected at 100 of 1000 Mbits.
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this is my onboard netword device, im not sure what its capable of.

qualcomm atheros ar8151 pci-e gigabit ethernet controller (ndis 6.20)
 
is there a setting for my nas that can change this speed?

in network settings on the nas, network status - 100 Mbps, Full duplex, MTU 1500
 
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Not sure off the top of my head I imagine it just needs each link in the chain between your PC and NAS to support gigabit and that includes the cables.

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.:SAmSuNG:. said:
Not sure off the top of my head I imagine it just needs each link in the chain between your PC and NAS to support gigabit and that includes the cables.
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Thanks for the info. I was not aware that you need a cable to support gigabit, i used the cable that came with the nas and another i had lying around, i have a few spares which i could try but i dont know how old they are or if they support gigabit.
 
It seems neither cable was the right spec, i found a couple of 2 metre cat.5e cables, i connected these up and im getting 30 to 35 MB/s copying from the pc to the nas. Typical that we get this fixed once i have only 100gb of data left to move. Oh well live and learn. Many thanks for your assistance you have been very helpful. Is it best to set a password and username for the nas, at the moment i just have it set to 'admin' with no password.
 
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