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Tried&Tested said:
Can someone tell me what's so great about this band? :) I can't say for sure if i've heard any of their songs...so feel free to suggest some of their better ones.

Thanks.

I asked the same question, I dug out all their old albums, obtained some live videos concerts and still didn't get it.
Watching a band live normally does it for me hence my massive collection but TOOL did nowt for me.
I contribute on a heavy metal forums (which I can't mention) and TOOL fans on there are exactly the same as though they're all following a trend which is :

The lyrics are so deep and meaningful
The songs integrate with each other
I'm not downloading the new album because i want perfect quality
The room will have to be silent so I can immerse myself

Its as though the TOOL fan is the Chav of the music listeners :D
 
dmpoole said:
Its as though the TOOL fan is the Chav of the music listeners :D

:p That kinda rings true actually..as some of my more chav-like friends keep telling me this band are great. I think i'll wait until something from them really catches my attention..
 
i whacked all of their albums (except the new one which i havent heard, but i'm not fussed about listening to straight away or anything) last night to do some work to....

after the few hours i felt like i'd been on a car journey but gone nowhere! it was bizarre!

they're a peculiar band, but i like them :)
 
Interview said:
VISIONS: Maynard, when the final version of your new album was played for the journalists yesterday, Danny and Justin stayed in the room to listen to it for the second time. You left. Why?
Maynard James Keenan: I can’t do that. I worked to close to it to being able to just sit down and examine people how they were listening to the album. Or being examined by them while I listen. They need to find out for themselves what matters to them.

VISIONS: The album sounds very resolute.
Keenan: These are hard times. In the past I always believed that one could save this collapsing world through share, enlightenment, a higher consciousness. But that somehow isn’t enough anymore. The album is, if you want to call it like that, more direct.

VISIONS: Is the variable singing your greatest personal achievement?
Keenan: I try to experiment as much as possible without harming the music. The many places on this record deserve different perspectives. Some of the vocal renovation I already tested on emotive, and even at the beginning of “The Grudge” on the last Tool record.

VISIONS: Despite your long career breaks, which are considered suicidal, the public interest in Tool seems even to increase. Whereas the tension before a new Tool release surely is also a result of your band philosophy: that of demonstrative seclusion and the resulting mystification. There’s almost nothing known about you (all). Is that your decision because of the image or for artistic reasons?
Keenan: In the first place these are decisions we feel comfortable with. Many people don’t want and can’t do it that way. Many musicians are happy when they see themselves on television. We don’t. The emotions which we set to music don’t fit into that. We need a certain space. If Paris Hilton needs to be a cheap and shabby public ****** for her personal evolvement, then I respect that. But sadly we can’t be like that. We need to protect ourselves, to keep our energy pristine.

VISIONS: Cherished be your respect for other people, but: Aren’t it the artists themselves – at least those of them who play the media game – who make it more difficult for those who function alternatively or even refuse themselves? Isn’t the pivot of a culture what artists let themselves be done with?
Keenan: I have to agree. That business with all its mechanisms which everyone complies to as a matter of course just to have success, is bad for people who place their art over success. Because the others render them dispensable for the record labels. Sure: We too use record labels, but we are not a party of all of it. It is further of interest that Tool are not at all dependent on the generally dropping record sales. Even if we wouldn’t sell a single copy, it wouldn’t be existentially dangerous to us. We make our money from touring. Our audience comes, even if we were gone for years or never be broadcast on radio.

VISIONS: But if you already are not reliant on it: Why can’t even your label have a copy of your album before release, so there can be reported in full? Don’t you give a No swearing!? Or do you fear a drop in sales after all?
Keenan: It’s artistic reasons. It’s a matter of appreciation for an album. The artwork, the music, the concept. It starts being a problem to us if we can not tour anymore – personal reasons for example. I hope that we, when the music industry collapses, be in a safe place. Let’s not fool ourselves: As important Tool seems to be to some people., nobody will remember us.

VISIONS: After all you managed to launch at #2 of the Us billboard charts with unconventional, cumbersome music and your last record Lateralus.
Keenan: That’s not our goal. Tool is a matter of four humans who meet again after three or four years to try to meld and express all their experience, all their emotions their way. Four personalities, who went in four different directions meet again to see where their lives cross. We unite our strengths in this… tool. We search for moments and capture them. And if we are honest to each other and try hard, then we have a nice snapshot of how we ticked on that day. That’s all we can do – music and some conversation. Hopefully we help others with that. It would be nice if we could straighten the focus a little bit. But that is beyond our power.

VISIONS: Would you say that you also coquette with the Tool-myths which was born out of your awe for media? Why isn’t there a single high resolution photograph of you without disguise?
Keenan: I do that in order to protect my private life. Do you have kids? You would understand. And if this where a perfect all-inclusive marketing plan (leans back) we would sell much more records. Then Tommy Lee and Pamela Anderson would have to camp in front of our studio. We are not relevant.

VISIONS: Another side effect is that your psychedelic visual style and your image do fire your fans’ imagination. There are people who say you have to listen to Lateralus beginning with the centred song Parabola towards the outside, others see occult…
Keenan: That’s No swearing!. That is all No swearing!. Every human does search for moments in which all makes sense. And those who search in music, will find. People have developed countless theories about Tool songs and what they mean. Theories about the playing order on our albums or the lyrics which can be reduced to a numeric pattern. Occultism equals fear. Much like religions, radical people use the occult to manipulate others. Most people who are practising those strange disciplines want truth. Because they’re tired of the lies which are told to them.

VISIONS: Where do YOU find truth?
Keenan: In a room with this band. With these people. Within the music. When those moments come in which everything fits. When sound and words fit, space opens and the path to a pristine place is clear, from which one – at least metaphorically – can see future and past simultaneously. A higher truth. (thinks) It is these moments which all artists want to reach: hard to explain, hard to achieve and they don’t last long.

VISIONS: Yet they’re worth it.
Keenan: Definitely.

VISIONS: If this is your goal and you even have to protect your work from the public, wouldn’t it be just consistent to say: We don’t release our music anymore at all? We discharge ourselves of any commercial necessities?
Keenan: (lifts finger) I as an American, no matter how hard I would wish - in my ideal version of myself – to be like that: I can’t. There is just too much of that culture in me. I want to show and sell. Show how I feel, what I do or how I find my own peace. (shrugs) I believe however that Tool have come relatively close to this point. I think that we, without compromises and restrictions set said snapshots to music. And I believe that this commercial superstructure over art, be it music business or whatever, will implode very soon and we will be at a point again where the greatest will be shared at smallest level.

VISIONS: Who speaks like that is considered a culture-pessimist.
Keenan: I’m not pessimistic just because I see the end of music business like we know it! I see it as an opportunity for change. How did we make it this far? Through change! And now we feel fear? I say: Everything will collapse and reinvent itself from this misery, as always.

VISIONS: And what does that mean to you?
Keenan: I will try to be in a beautiful place on that day, from where I can watch.

VISIONS: The chorus from the first song on your album fits well: “ I like to stand aside and watch things die from a distance” is the only line which I can remember from the first listen.
Keenan: That’s right. It fits. But it actually is in sarcastic context. Wait a second…

The door opens, and the promotion lady gives a sign to cut off. 25 minutes, 44 seconds. Maynard does not notice. He raises from the armchair, nuzzles in his pocket, takes out a brown wallet, searches for something. “Maybe I still have it” the promotion lady comes closer. “Here it is!” he shows a small note on which is written: SCHADENFREUDE. “See?” He folds the note, puts it back to his wallet and sits down. That’s what the first song is about. Now he noticed her. “There’s much to do. Come to the concerts, I will be one of the four guys on stage.” He shortly laughs and leaves the room.
 
Tried&Tested said:
That kinda rings true actually..as some of my more chav-like friends keep telling me this band are great. I think i'll wait until something from them really catches my attention..


Wierd, can' say i've noticed many chavs that are into metal but hey, at least they've stopped liking that steaming pile of **** that is most RnB, so i suppose it's a step in the right direction. :)

Personally i refuse to download the album, but thats just me, i as of yet have never downlaoded a leaked album before release, didn't do it with With teeth by NiN and won't do it with this album. I can guarentee that the quality of a CD will be good i can't guarentee that the quality of a ripped mp3 is going to be much cop, and i don't download music, i like having cd's.


As for why i like them, i don't really know, all i know is that one day i heard undertow and it was incredible, it was different, had a sound like no other band, the tunes were well done but there was just something about them, i hadn't and have not heard since anything like Tool, this was backed by these stunning vocals (the only singers voice i like even comparably is mikael akerfeldt's when he stretches the old vocal chords for Opeth) and insane drumming. Then they did Aenima, which isn't an album it's a god damn work of art, it's one of the best produced and written albums i've ever heard, then came lateralus, weaker than Aenima (most albums are ;) ) and some don't like it, stand up Mr penski :D but i think it's still stunning from start to finish, with the highlighs for me being parabol and parabola, Schism, Ticks and leeches and then the rest of the album.

There is a reason that people that like them are absolutely mad about them, it's because a) they are simply incredible, and they get better and better the more you listen to them, unless your penski and someone puts on lateralus :D

So in conclusion god knows what it is about them, it's everything, but they just work stunningly well :D
 
Sorry to the mod who had to edit the swearing out, I posted in a hurry and didn't realise there was any swearing in there...

Back on topic, the album art is starting to grow on me. There is something about the deadpan stare of the drawing that is almost spiritual...
 
Tried&Tested said:
:D is that comment for real? Perhaps dmpoole's comments earlier were right! :D

The cover art is average at best.

Well, if you look at the artwork for Lateralus or have read anything about what Alex Grey is trying to achieve with his art you would realise that it is most likely the case. I will not explain what Lateralus cover art depicts (I understand some of it) and I cant yet confess to know what the Web Of Being depicts unless it is Jung's collective unconcious perhaps ... but I can guaruntee you that spiritual meanings in the art are more than just rumour - they are intentional
 
I wonder if TOOL fans were Take That fans in another life?

Follow the leader leader leader, follow the leader leader lead
Follow the leader leader leader, follow the leader leader lead

I've had another bloke at work today talking about them in exactly the same way while I stood their with a deadpan face.
Its like the Freemasons and we're not being let in.
 
dmpoole said:
I wonder if TOOL fans were Take That fans in another life?
Ahaha, that's exactly on the ball. Tool and Radiohead have the worst fans by a long, long way!

"The songs are so deep."
"I really get the lyrics."
"The artwork is so meaningful."
"You really have to listen to this album 80 time before you 'get' it."

Oh *** off and listen to the songs, you pricks ;).
 
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Arcade Fire said:
Ahaha, that's exactly on the ball. Tool and Radiohead have the worst fans by a long, long way!


When I were a lad it was Pink Floyd.
You had to listen to Floyd with joss sticks and a bit of grass or else you wouldn't get it.
I never got it because joss sticks made me puke.
 
I'm a rabid Pink Floyd fan myself, actually. They were the first band I was ever 'into'.

I find that the best way to listen to Dark Side of the Moon is backwards, at 45rpm, in the dark, with a recording of someone humming Buddhist prayer meditations in the background and 10 kilos of delicately perfumed incense burning in the next room.

Although obviously The Final Cut is a much better album because the lyrics really speak to you, and DSotM is just far too popular, which demeans it somewhat.
 
dmpoole said:
I wonder if TOOL fans were Take That fans in another life?

Follow the leader leader leader, follow the leader leader lead
Follow the leader leader leader, follow the leader leader lead

I've had another bloke at work today talking about them in exactly the same way while I stood their with a deadpan face.
Its like the Freemasons and we're not being let in.

Think for yourself, question authority. ;)

As for what other people have said... I love Tool, and it's not my job to convince anyone else to like them. As far as I can tell it's your loss if you can't see past your own prejudices and give them a chance.

Tool do a lot for me on a lyrical and musical basis and I get a lot of enjoyment out of listening to them. Their lyrics are extremely poetic and the music can be extremely thought provoking and tender and then seconds later brutal and emotional.

I can't wait for 10,000 Days. I've only heard Vicarious and I'm really limiting my listens to it to keep it fresh as well. I've only listened about 6 times in total maybe and not at all since last week. Monday I'll be heading out and buying the album along with the new Pearl Jam record (which won't get a proper listen for weeks).

This only comes along once every five years for Tool fans, so no wonder it's a special occasion.
 
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