tablets to replace PCs?

Jimz · 30 Jul 2012 at 20:33

Check out Dead Trigger on the Ipad 3. Its exactly the same as PC running very good Graphics.

Tablets are catching up and that's a clear example.

Richdog · 30 Jul 2012 at 21:41

Jimz said:
Check out Dead Trigger on the Ipad 3. Its exactly the same as PC running very good Graphics.

Tablets are catching up and that's a clear example.

Wow... that is seriously impressive. :eek:

EDIT - And Infinity Blade II... holy **** I really had no idea games were already out that looked like that... but then I don't follow iPads. Still, amazing.

MADMAN · 30 Jul 2012 at 23:15

http://androidcommunity.com/shadowgun-meets-left-4-dead-in-dead-trigger-thd-for-android-20120601/

looks sick... give it another few years and its easily replaced laptops

Jay794 · 31 Jul 2012 at 12:16

Angilion said:
lolololololololololol. Etc.

Laughing all the time doesn't make your point. It just makes you look silly, which detracts from your point.

Touch screen are rubbish for a great many things. Accurate input, most games, etc.

That doesn't really matter. The simple input that touchscreens do well is enough for the simple games that sell very well and enough for the apps that most customers use. So touchscreens will continue to thrive, simply because there's money to be made. A large proportion of customers want a small screen, simple graphics and simple games. The most likely result is a continuing increase in simple games and a continuing decrease in full games. Casual games are profitable and cheap to make. A shame, but that's the way it's going.

What we might well see is an increase in tablet power to low games console levels and wireless connections to TVs and input devices, so a tablet can double as a games console.

I lol a lot because the claim is radiculous, yes tablets are on the rise, but there are just some things that they'll never do as well as a desktop will, sure reading books is better on a tablet than it is on a PC, but touch screen gaming can only go so far, by which time, total immersion gaming may well be affordable in the home

Glaucus · 31 Jul 2012 at 12:19

But it has never ever been about killing the desktop market, it's about market share and that desktop market will decline in the coming years. Pc gamers aren't a large market.

Jay794 · 31 Jul 2012 at 12:27

Glaucus said:
But it has never ever been about killing the desktop market, it's about market share and that desktop market will decline in the coming years. Pc gamers aren't a large market.

....the thread title suggests different

Glaucus · 31 Jul 2012 at 12:28

Jay794 said:
....the thread title suggests different

No it really doesn't. In many cases, tablets will replace desktops. Just think what the average home user does. A tablet is more than enough, with the added benefits. It's about market share, and for that desktops will be declining.

The majority of devices are allready touchscreens, smartphones allready massively outstrip all other computer forms combined by a massive margin.

paradisiac · 31 Jul 2012 at 12:34

Glaucus said:
No it really doesn't. In many cases, tablets will replace desktops. Just think what the average home user does. A tablet is more than enough, with the added benefits. It's about market share, and for that desktops will be declining.

The majority of devices are allready touchscreens, smartphones allready massively outstrip all other computer forms combined by a massive margin.

the thing with smartphones is, most people need/have a phone, and most phones are smartphones of some kind. this gives a false result on the popularity of smartphones. all my family, even my grandparents have a smartphone, mostly cheap android things, but none really use it for anything other than phoning people or texting.

Glaucus · 31 Jul 2012 at 12:35

paradisiac said:
the thing with smartphones is, most people need/have a phone, and most phones are smartphones of some kind. this gives a false result on the popularity of smartphones. all my family, even my grandparents have a smartphone, mostly cheap android things, but none really use it for anything other than phoning people or texting.

Not reall. Look at the number of apps sold, compared to desktops. Smartphones are used more than anything else. The sales show this. They are easy and cheap and that's a massive factor for entire regions of the globe, who can't afford a big, power hungry box.

BloodyL · 31 Jul 2012 at 12:39

I asked for recommendations for a tablet to help with my creativity.
Someone said I'm best of getting a desktop, the only problem being they are more expensive.
I told him I can't swallow that.

Brought to you by my attempt at the Tim Vine school of comedy.

paradisiac · 31 Jul 2012 at 12:40

Glaucus said:
Not reall. Look at the number of apps sold, compared to desktops. Smartphones are used more than anything else. The sales show this. They are easy and cheap and that's a massive factor for entire regions of the globe, who can't afford a big, power hungry box.

but I bet you will find more people use free apps/games on things like facebook etc on their laptop/desktop than they pay for phone apps. phone apps are cheap, so of course given the choice of 49p every couple of weeks over a £10+ pc piece of software. I don't think you can directly compare the 2 unless you are comparing like for like apps on both machines at the same price.

Glaucus · 31 Jul 2012 at 12:42

paradisiac said:
but I bet you will find more people use free apps/games on things like facebook etc on their laptop/desktop than they pay for phone apps. phone apps are cheap, so of course given the choice of 49p every couple of weeks over a £10+ pc piece of software. I don't think you can directly compare the 2 unless you are comparing like for like apps on both machines at the same price.

It's allready happening, accept it. What £10 software does an average pc user use? Nothing at all.
Windows+office+web. They don't use anything else, people do buy cheap apps. Far more. Profit in mobile devices than desktops, although win8 metro desktop should help. To halt that slide, but it won't help the decline of desktop sales.

MADMAN · 31 Jul 2012 at 12:44

yup smartfones and tabs are the way forward...

I see customers daily instore and there just looking at tablets/phones...

paradisiac · 31 Jul 2012 at 12:44

laptops are outselling tablets, desktops are on par, and like I said, EVERYONE has a phone and its hard to find one that isn't a smartphone :rolleyes:

that proves nothing from what I can see.

Glaucus · 31 Jul 2012 at 12:46

paradisiac said:
laptops are outselling tablets, desktops are on par, e.

and? What's happening, looks at the growths or negative growths. This is a FUTURE thread. The trends are allready showing.

Doesnt prove anything? Other than companies in mobile markets, make far more profit and are in a massively expanding market.

Then we have things like the web connection stats. We've allready seen that people connect to the web by mobile devices has outstripped pcs in several countries. With the rest of us predicted to cross that line within a couple of years.

Which ever stats you look at the growth is huge and pcs declining, be it use, or growth.

paradisiac · 31 Jul 2012 at 12:49

Glaucus said:
and? What's happening, looks at the growths or negative growths. This is a FUTURE thread. The trends are allready showing.

Doesnt prove anything? Other than companies in mobile markets, make far more profit and are in a massively expanding market.

yes, but that is a prediction, not a known fact. people predicted netbooks would replace laptops due to their mobility, and wow, look how well they are currently doing :rolleyes:

mobile phones will always be popular and make money as everyone needs a phone as I have stated. Tablets at the moment are the must have thing, so of course they are selling well. but that doesn't mean this trend HAS to continue. it only takes something to happen that makes them unfashionable and the trend will stop.

Glaucus · 31 Jul 2012 at 12:55

paradisiac said:
yes, but that is a prediction, not a known fact. people predicted netbooks would replace laptops due to their mobility, and wow, look how well they are currently doing mobile phones will always be popular and make money as everyone needs a phone as I have stated. Tablets at the moment are the must have thing, so of course they are selling well. but that doesn't mean this trend HAS to continue. it only takes something to happen that makes them unfashionable and the trend will stop.

It's far more than than just everyone needs a phone. It is. Now the defect way people connect to the web. In several countries and within a few years that trend will be global.
What do you think the average user actually does on a computer?
What can't they do on mobile devices.

So you dislike predicting the future, yet making further predictions, that goes against every single expert, goes against current stats and goes against the profits of companies.

People keep sprouting the netbook/laptop, but it's a completely different comparison. You didn't have mobile OS and the app ecosystems to go with it, this changes the ballpark for several reasons. One is easy of use and public acceptability, the other is producers. Bottom line. When do you think producers are going to produce software for? Pcs that most people simply don't buy software for and is going to be a declining market, or for mobile devices, that are highly monetized and the largest market share by someway.

What do you think. People will be buying and using in the many many poorer countries, a big desktop, or something like the nexus7 albeit a Chinese cheaper version.

paradisiac · 31 Jul 2012 at 13:03

Glaucus said:
It's far more than than just everyone needs a phone. It is. Now the defect way people connect to the web. In several countries and within a few years that trend will be global.
What do you think the average user actually does on a computer?
What can't they do on mobile devices.

So you dislike predicting the future, yet making further predictions, that goes against every single expert, goes against current stats and goes against the profits of companies.

People keep sprouting the netbook/laptop, but it's a completely different comparison. You didn't have mobile OS and the app ecosystems to go with it, this changes the ballpark for several reasons. One is easy of use and public acceptability, the other is producers. Bottom line. When do you think producers are going to produce software for? Pcs that most people simply don't buy software for and is going to be a declining market, or for mobile devices, that are highly monetized and the largest market share by someway.

or pcs will continue to develop OS's like windows 8 that will also support mobile apps? or is this just a fad MS are doing for the sheer hell of it?

I can not see into the future so your arguments may be correct. but in my opinion I see it as more of a fad that will slowly ease off and fit into the market with the current systems.
from memory I don't think the iPad 3 was as popular as the original iPad, as the novelty kind of wore off by then, or people already had one and couldn't justify getting a new one. whereas with a desktop, whack in some ram, gfx card or similar and it feel like a new pc at a low cost.

Glaucus · 31 Jul 2012 at 13:06

paradisiac said:
or pcs will continue to develop OS's like windows 8 that will also support mobile apps? or is this just a fad MS are doing for the sheer hell of it?

It's not a fad, it's a way of merging everything together so there isn't a distinction between mobile and desktop. It keeps all the developers happy. Other than steam/blizzard. At some future windows build, there won't be an arm/x86, desktop or metro. It'll be one single united Os spreading all form factors.
all the experts predict mobile technology is the future, several countries allready have the stats to back this judgment up. This is a future thread, so you have to make predictions for it to be meaningfull. There's just nothing to suggest this is a fad.

Whack in some new ram/gfx, you're not thinking like an average user.

paradisiac · 31 Jul 2012 at 13:13

Glaucus said:
Whack in some new ram/gfx, you're not thinking like an average user.

umm.........I fix pc's for a living and 90% of our customers are 50+ and they will have upgrades to increase the life of their machine rather than purchasing something else for the sake of it. so yes, I do see regular users all the time that still use desktops/laptops and will happily pay for an upgrade to stop them needing a replacement. we have seen absolutely no decline in repairs or upgrades, and our tablet sales are not that high. maybe its just this town, but I have no evidence of everyone jumping onto the tablet thing.