Taking another persons speeding fine.

Mr_White

Mr_White

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Hi folks, someone asked me if I knew if there would be any repercussions from claiming they were driving the vehicle so they could take the points, but weren't driving it, never have, and aren't insured on it anyway.


It was a 40 in a 30 and the accused is now on 9 points and had already had a 40 in a 30 earlier that month, so was previously only on 3 months, the second fine was from an unfamiliar area where the accused was lost and had no idea of the area.

It's a company car and he's the only one insured or allowed to drive it, but someone has offered to take the points for him, since his livelihood relies on having a licence, as do most peoples.

So if someone was to claim they were driving the car to take the points, would they look into the insurance and whatnot to see if they're insured to drive it, then end up in court and charged for perverting the course of justice and whatever else they can charge you with.

So if anyone knows the procedure etc they go through in these situations, that'd be helpful so I can pass it on, cheers. :)
 
Can't tell you if they'd check, but be aware that if they do, the accused could face a charge of allowing someone to drive uninsured. And the person taking the points could be done for no insurance. Or if they're found out, I suppose perverting the course of justice is a possiblity.

Good idea though ;)
 
I think it would be very risky for both the driver and person offering to take the points since they are not insured on that vehicle.

*edit - since the driver is the only person insured they will have to face the concequences.
 
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If the person willing to take the points has DOC cover and the picture doesn't show the face of the driver then it is highly unlikely that the police will catch them out.

It's wrong to do so but entirely doable.
 
If it is his first time acquiring the maximum points he may be able to be given one last chance. This is a regular occurence for taxi drivers, self employed and the like. If he can provide very good reasons for desperately needing to drive and throw being extremely apologetic mixed with a bit of begging then he may be allowed to continue to drive.
 
The person who was driving was a friend from india called ""put whatever hear"" he had insurance as he showed me his policy certificate which allowed him to drive any car.His address in india is such and such.. :p

Gotta be worth a try lol..


Seriously though my mate let his dad take 3 points for him about 6 months ago and they never asked to see his insurance. (note though - he was insured so they might just check on there data base or whatever without asking)..

gavin..
 
Scuzi said:
If the person willing to take the points has DOC cover and the picture doesn't show the face of the driver then it is highly unlikely that the police will catch them out.

It's wrong to do so but entirely doable.
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^ What he said.
 
'Apparently' - there are interweb sites where people can offer their points and then pay someone silly money to take the fall.

Was reading this in a Telegraph article a few months back aimed at people near totting up limit. Personally, i'm yet to find such a site :o
 
Mr_White said:
That wouldn't work unless they'd been given permission to drive the car from the company though would it?
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A lot of companies (mine included) have clauses in their employment contracts regarding the use of company cars which stipulate no-one else is permitted to drive it without their prior permission, but this doesn't make it illegal. Another driver could still be insured to drive it under DOC cover, so it'd be legal, they'd only be subject to displinary action by their employer.
 
Scuzi said:
If the person willing to take the points has DOC cover and the picture doesn't show the face of the driver then it is highly unlikely that the police will catch them out.

It's wrong to do so but entirely doable.
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I knew a bloke who did just that last year.

He was near max points on his licence so got his wife to take the "hit".

Worked ok for him, although he was a mug and still is, in the first place to drive like he does which ultimately led to the points. :rolleyes:
 
Yes, if you're not silly you could get away with it.

However, if caught you will both be doing porridge for quite some time.
 
hehe yea if they checked and the person had no doc and they checked then they would get 6 points for driving unisured as well as the 3 for speeding, if they found out it wasnt the other person driving then it would probably be a stint in prison, pretty lose lose situation to me :p
 
If his License is so important why did he not be more careful in the first place then? Being lost is no excuse for speeding is it? And if in fact he was lost I would have though he would be more likely to slow down and try and find out where he was etc. Driving around at 40 in a 30 is hardly likely to help him find his way is it?

If you cant do the time etc.........

Equally if he grovels sufficiently he might just get a one month ban, then he could use all his holidays and if his employer is sympatheic he might just get to keep his job.

Hard to feel sorry for him though, I'm an ADI and if I got more than 6 points all in (None currently) then theres a good chance the ADI registrar would remove me from the register and I would be unemployed etc and thats without a ban. So why anyone else who needs there licence for there job puts it at risk I will never know!
 
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Dashik said:
If his License is so important why did he not be more careful in the first place then? Being lost is no excuse for speeding is it? And if in fact he was lost I would have though he would be more likely to slow down and try and find out where he was etc. Driving around at 40 in a 30 is hardly
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Try driving around in an area you don't know with people inches off your arse when you're already in a bad temper and it's very easy to get caught doing 40 in a 30, especially when it's poorly sign posted, cambridge is very bad for 40s in a 30 as well, which is where the other one was.

Most people need their car to make a living, and getting caught doing 40 in a 30 is in my opinion the most likely scenario you're going to get caught and doesn't exactly make them a bad driver, I think most people will agree with that.

Edit: he's on 9 points, not 12, and is leaving his current job anyway, so that's irrelevant.
 
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