Tate Brothers - Round 2

He was attacking white people the other day for not having enough kids and being obsessed with corn.

I've never seen Tate condemn his attitude and facilitating of corn. Does he still run a webcam business?

I'll only believe in coincidence if there is a reasonable reason to. But Tate has a very odd background. He's a story teller. I doubt his history is what he's said.
 
It's still mad to me how he had been doing his grift for 4-5 years relatively unsuccessfully, then one day he finally goes proper viral and transforms overnight from the 'guy who hates star wars and banged Jordan Petersons daughter' to the savior of young men everywhere !

He's definitely the most unique grifter out there along with Jackson Hinkle
 
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imtoooldforthis said:
It's still mad to me how he had been doing his grift for 4-5 years relatively unsuccessfully, then one day he finally goes proper viral and transforms overnight from the 'guy who hates star wars and banged Jordan Petersons daughter' to the savior of young men everywhere !

He's definitely the most unique grifter out there along with Jackson Hinkle
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I think it's all bluff because I don't know anyone who actually takes him seriously.
 
Devon and Cornwall Police having a go:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjk3xglre0ko

Controversial social media personality Andrew Tate and his brother Tristan have been accused of failing to pay any tax on £21m of revenue from their online businesses.

Devon and Cornwall Police is bringing a civil claim against the brothers and a third person, referred to only as J.

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The proceedings are civil, which uses a lower standard of proof than criminal cases.

Chief Magistrate Paul Goldspring will decide on the balance of probabilities whether what the police claim is true.
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The brothers are accused of paying just under $12m into an account in J's name, and opening a second account in her name, even though she had no role in their businesses, the court heard.

Devon and Cornwall Police alleges that this was fraud by false misrepresentation
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I am confused here... Why are the police pursuing a CIVIL case for Tax Evasion and not criminal when they explicitly state that they believe its Fraud by Misrepresentation? :confused: Surely this is not simply because the burden of proof is far less in Civil cases than Criminal.... IMHO, Police Forces should not be able to pursue civil cases if they are stating it amounts to a criminal offence and the reason to go civil is the burden of proof... It reeks of desperation.

DISCLAIMER - IANAL so perhaps someone better qualified can explain that one to me.



EDIT: Link fixed... No idea WTF happened :o, cheers @Hades
 
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Richie said:
Devon and Cornwall Police having a go:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjk3xglre0ko





I am confused here... Why are the police pursuing a CIVIL case for Tax Evasion and not criminal when they explicitly state that they believe its Fraud by Misrepresentation? :confused: Surely this is not simply because the burden of proof is far less in Civil cases than Criminal.... IMHO, Police Forces should not be able to pursue civil cases if they are stating it amounts to a criminal offence and the reason to go civil is the burden of proof... It reeks of desperation.

DISCLAIMER - IANAL so perhaps someone better qualified can explain that one to me.
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Working link here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjk3xglre0ko

Yes that's a really weird one. Also:

They are accused of paying no tax in any country on their online business revenue between 2014 and 2022.
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Surely the issue (if there is one) is that they didn't pay tax in the UK. The fact they didn't pay tax in other countries is nothing to do with the UK and certainly not the local Cornwall constabulary. But I agree with you that it's very odd the police can make a civil claim on behalf of the Inland Revenue. I assume the BBC reporting is poor in this case and they aren't explaining the fact s very well.
 
Hades said:
Working link here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjk3xglre0ko

Yes that's a really weird one. Also:



Surely the issue (if there is one) is that they didn't pay tax in the UK. The fact they didn't pay tax in other countries is nothing to do with the UK and certainly not the local Cornwall constabulary. But I agree with you that it's very odd the police can make a civil claim on behalf of the Inland Revenue. I assume the BBC reporting is poor in this case and they aren't explaining the fact s very well.
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I'm going to guess that UK police might be involved if there is a claim the tax is being paid in another country when it's due in the UK or that it's been claimed it's being paid in the UK when it's not.

Not quite sure why it would be civil though, unless it's something to do with either poor reporting or the way it's handled if the UK police are gathering evidence/assisting a foreign force for the specific matter?
 
Werewolf said:
I'm going to guess that UK police might be involved if there is a claim the tax is being paid in another country when it's due in the UK or that it's been claimed it's being paid in the UK when it's not.
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The police are claiming they have paid no tax in any country though, according to the report. Unless you meant that the Tate's are making those false claims.
 
I wish authorities would actually just go for them when they have something can stick without fail. All that's happening is they (authorities ) are keeping the Tates "relevant" and feeding in to their narrative of the system coming after them.
 
Fubsy said:
I wish authorities would actually just go for them when they have something can stick without fail. All that's happening is they (authorities ) are keeping the Tates "relevant" and feeding in to their narrative of the system coming after them.
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Exactly. same to all the people who hate them but need to comment about everything they do. Keeps the Tate brothers relevant and keeps sending people/business their way.
 
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Fubsy said:
I wish authorities would actually just go for them when they have something can stick without fail. All that's happening is they (authorities ) are keeping the Tates "relevant" and feeding in to their narrative of the system coming after them.
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And that's the problem.

When they don't then people stop questioning the Tates, turn to the authorities and questioning their job. Can the authorities actually do their job or they nothing on the Tates in the first place and its a witch hunt?
 
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adam cool dude said:
Sex was a small part of it though. I thought his major income was from those "lifestyle" courses that seem to be all the rage and plastered all over socials.
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Those courses help men have better relations (if you can call it that!) with women. Really, give men the illusion of how to get sex.
 
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I thought he was supposed to be the criminal mastermind of an evil organised crime group but now he's just a legitimate business man involved in some creative accounting? :D
 
n111ck said:
I thought he was supposed to be the criminal mastermind of an evil organised crime group but now he's just a legitimate business man involved in some creative accounting? :D
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A lot of very nasty criminals have managed to avoid getting done on their original crimes, but ended up getting done because of the way they handled the income.

The police might never be able to prove you're a high level drug dealer, but HMRC are going to want to know how you afforded that nice car when you didn't have any declared income ;)
 
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