Teamgroup 2600 c10 2 x 4gb issues

MrPils said:
Just for this test (3 hours now and still going strong, I'm trying not to get my hopes up too much!) its all at auto...if its stable then I'll re-run with my previous 2nd and 3rd timings from the stable 11/13/13/35 run and see what happens. Trrd was at 4 then, trrd 3 would pass 32m but not hyperpi or prime.
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not trrd. tRDRD

its the first third.


@8pack. i dont have anything to boot memtest onto. but as everything is at stock. and passes prime etc with the samsung no problem. surely if prime or aida64 memory stability test fail. then it must be that?
 
Testing at the moment. With prime and it's failing instantly. Tweak a voltage test again and again and again.

I put up ioa and it stopped it failing instantly. So maybe that's the key. A voltage set of the three main areas of ioa Iod and sa

(Tweaking volts on the fly with Aisuite)

Edit. For 8 pack and mrpils,

I really think its the key, put up those three volts one at a time and at some point it went from crashing instantly. To running for at least 30 minutes now. Finding the combination of volts for the three setting plus Vdimm is the key I reckon. Just putting all three voltages to 1.3 didn't work though. So I'm guessing it can't be too high or too low.. Ach

This is at trdr 4. Everything else auto and 10/12/12/31/1 @1.7
 
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Mine dropped a thread after 3 hours 24 mins. The other 3 threads were still running this morning (12 hours).

Thats as close as I've ever come to stable at stock settings, however the timings and bandwidth were absolutely horrible. On a whim I swapped the sticks around again and it failed within 5 mins.

Im not willing to go over 1.65v to get them stable at stock settings, if they dont do stock they can go back. For testing purposes though ill slowly up the vdimm and see if they do actually become stable at any point. Itll take a while at 3hrs+ between failures though :eek:.


For James2k - my stable 11-13-13-35 3rd timings set in the order they appear in bios (M5F compared to your M6...) :

TWRDR 1
TRWDR 4
TRWSR 4
TRRDD 1
TRRDR 1
TRRSR 5
TWWDD 1
TWWDR 1
TWWSR 4


Edit - On consideration I think ill try re-running with vccsa and vccio at stock first and see if it makes any difference to the failure time. If it fails quicker then I know I need to look at these two voltages, if not then ill add a bit of vdimm and see where we get to.
 
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8 Pack said:
Guys what about mem test??? Prime is not a memory test exclusively!!! mem test please!!!
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Im testing at stock everything...3.9ghz with an offset overvolt and 100mhz pcie. Im also stable at 4.6ghz/2600mhz using 11-13-13-35-1T using the same offset and voltages, so my hardware is fundamentally sound despite the frustration im going through at the moment.

Im really not keen on memtest (bootable) as a stability test as from experience I have found it reports stability when windows is not. I always have to add a little voltage to get from memtest stable to prime stable (though memtest stable will run super pi32m, 3dmark etc). Its good for dialling in your benching settings, but I would never use it to test 24/7 stability. I really only tend to use memtest when im unsure if I can boot to windows and dont want to risk corruption. HCI memtest for windows gives me much the same result...it doesnt find anything that Prime wouldnt find quicker, and sometimes finds nothing where prime fails. A good example of this is my Crucial Elite which needs 1.56v for 2000mhz 9-9-9-21-1T for memtest stablity but will still bsod in games and drop prime threads. 1.58v is required for actual stability.

My Prime95 settings are custom 8k - 720k and 7000mb allocated. I find this picks up errors quickest on SB/IB, for some reason that 720k test really pushes this architecture hard.

Cheers for the help so far...Im particularly looking forward to seeing your results from a current stock kit (id be happy to take that kit as my rma if it passes stable, just incase there's an issue with opening stock).
 
Will do when I get home tonight - it'll be late though :)

What settings do you want? The 10-12-12 from last night that lasted 3 hours or so or the 11-13-13-35 with tweaked subs?
 
Got HT disabled...nothing I do takes advantage of it so no point having it on with all the extra heat. This chip is about the hottest running 3770k I've ever seen...crying out for a delid but I haven't got the guts to do it lol :).
 
ah ok,

i hate this ram.

had it stable for an hour and it stops some workers and crashes prime.

restart pc and it is erroring within 2 mins with the same settings.. unbelievable.
 
I have it running on both Haswell and Ivy 2600 10-12-12 1T. Haswell 10-13-12 2666. I am just working on tuned Ivy then I will post up some settings. Sticking with 1.65v on all this stuff.
 
james_2k said:
ok. this is crashing pretty much within 3 mins now. whereas it ran for an hour when i got back..

horrible! :(
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Crashing what? Prime?
You gotta memtest mate as it purely tests the ram and nothing else, if its crashing in prime/windows it could be something else causing instability.
To speed up memtest process, try test 4 and 7 (think there the ones, sure 8Pack will jump in and give correct ones, bit rusty!)
 
its stable with the lower memory @ 2200.

ill try to get memtest going. and thanks 8 pack ill try 35 too.

incidentally, if you get it stable, a full set of timings would be greatly appreciated :)
 
I have it fully stable mate. I had it running a couple of hours 2600 and 2666 on Haswell. I have taken bios shots also. I am going to tune it too.
2600 was 10-12-12-35-1T 6-11000-225-16-10-40-10-6-9 6-8-8-26-a-a-5-9-9 13 13 13 DRAM CLK 14 1.65v. This is not tuned its for stablility.

I tuned Ivy 2600 also and left that running. At 2666mhz if I remember correctly it was virtually the same with 2T again low 1.65v.
 
good work man, im going to keep trying over the weekend, but if i cant get it stable ill have to send them back. at least my greens were a known entity.

thanks for your help so far bud
 
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