Temperature problems!

Five.Stars · 22 Mar 2014 at 20:08

Are you running more than 1 monitor. It is at higher clocks at idle than it otherwise would on a single monitor. The core is a couple of 100mhz higher, but the memory doesn't downclock in multi-monitor as the higher clocks and voltage are required to prevent flickering, which was a big problem with the Radeon 5 series cards initially.

Running at those temps consistently may have cooked the thermal interface material to the point where it can no longer efficiently transfer the heat from the heat producing parts of the card to the heatsink. I have seen this with a cpu, the TIM becomes hard and very brittle. I would remove the cooler and replace the TIM and see what difference this makes to temps during load. My guess is you would see a vast improvement.

andy3457 · 22 Mar 2014 at 20:11

The only games I download are honestly only from Steam/Origin or anything like that...i play about 3 games and that's it...
I just ran Malwarebytes, It found 10 threats but did not make a difference sadly...?

Stopzilla just makes my computer freeze out sadly :S

Thanks!!

I appreciate all the help!

Edit: yes I will definitely be replacing the paste tomorrow, Little late to do it now and don't have any sitting around sadly...
Yes running 2 monitors, Sometimes 3 if I ever need to/want to show anything on my tv...

Thanks!

wazza300 · 22 Mar 2014 at 20:14

load defaults in ccc,than can sometimes cure it

using chrome web browser? disabling hardware acceleration might help

andy3457 · 22 Mar 2014 at 20:21

wazza300 said:
load defaults in ccc,than can sometimes cure it

using chrome web browser? disabling hardware acceleration might help

'defaults' is greyed out in ccc...

I probably should know but where can I disable hardware accel? haha.

Thanks.

wazza300 · 22 Mar 2014 at 20:21

in chrome somewhere,are you using chrome?

i don't use it

andy3457 · 22 Mar 2014 at 20:23

wazza300 said:
in chrome somewhere,are you using chrome?

i don't use it

Oh yes, I just found it haha...

Nothing seems to be changing anything, Think I should just hold out until tomorrow and change the paste??

wazza300 · 22 Mar 2014 at 20:25

yeah you can do,but idling at 500mhz wont help hence the higher temps,it should idle at 300mhz

humbug · 22 Mar 2014 at 20:25

Can you install MSI AB, that will show you in a Graph what the GPU is doing, if the Graph shows its under heavy use when it should be idle then somethings wrong.

http://event.msi.com/vga/afterburner/download.htm

andy3457 · 22 Mar 2014 at 20:27

http://puu.sh/7FoA8.png

Sorry that's all of it...just changed it.

humbug · 22 Mar 2014 at 20:28

andy3457 said:
http://puu.sh/7FotU.jpg

That's what my AB is showing in idle...

Ok that’s wired. the GPU is hot, and yet no usage on it.

andy3457 · 22 Mar 2014 at 20:30

http://puu.sh/7FoA8.png

That link shows all of what's going on...Forgot I could do it like that...Don't know if that helps anymore....

wazza300 · 22 Mar 2014 at 20:33

how long has it been doing it? your mid clocks are the culprit imo

you have idle/mid/gaming clocks and it switches between them depending on gpu loads

humbug · 22 Mar 2014 at 20:33

andy3457 said:
http://puu.sh/7FoA8.png

That link shows all of what's going on...Forgot I could do it like that...Don't know if that helps anymore....

Boot Windows in safe mode, is it still hot then?

Five.Stars · 22 Mar 2014 at 20:34

wazza300 said:
yeah you can do,but idling at 500mhz wont help hence the higher temps,it should idle at 300mhz

Not with multi-monitors it won't. Idling at higher temps isn't the problem, the load temps are what are causing the card to artifact after use. I believe this is due to the extended use of multi-monitor setup degrading the efficiency of the TIM. I could be wrong, but the last time I was wrong was the last time I thought I was wrong!

andy3457 · 22 Mar 2014 at 20:35

It has been doing it for about 2 days maybe...Never had any problems with it before, Will try booting into safe mode now and get back to you guys

Thanks.

Ripshod · 22 Mar 2014 at 20:36

Five.Stars said:
Are you running more than 1 monitor. It is at higher clocks at idle than it otherwise would on a single monitor.

andy3457 said:
Yes running 2 monitors, Sometimes 3 if I ever need to/want to show anything on my tv...

wazza300 said:
yeah you can do,but idling at 500mhz wont help hence the higher temps,it should idle at 300mhz

oops??

Definitely a case for a good stipdown clean and new tim, so long as the fans are running correctly

wazza300 · 22 Mar 2014 at 20:36

Five.Stars said:
Not with multi-monitors it won't. Idling at higher temps isn't the problem, the load temps are what are causing the card to artifact after use. I believe this is due to the extended use of multi-monitor setup degrading the efficiency of the TIM. I could be wrong, but the last time I was wrong was the last time I thought I was wrong!

yes that's true i meant multi monitor 120hz above aside

andy3457 · 22 Mar 2014 at 20:44

For some reason AB or CCC won't show anything in safe mode? :S Maybe I'm doing something wrong...?

But I see a lot of people suggesting the strip down and apply new paste...maybe that's my problem...Hopefully...!

Thanks for sticking with me after all this...haha.

Andy.

Ripshod · 23 Mar 2014 at 09:21

AB and CCC won't work in safe mode because windows just loads the 'standard vga' drivers, not the full ones.

Wolfe777 · 23 Mar 2014 at 11:30

This is almost identical to an issue I was having with my 680 - idle temps of around 70 showing 0% gpu usage. I even posted a topic here titled something like unusual overheating issue. I fixed mine after a lot of trial and error by installing new nvidia driver via a custom install option as a completely new install replacing any prior settings.

I have a strong hunch this is a virus or software issue for the topic creator and that replacing thermal paste won't improve anything. I think it's an advanced bitcoin virus that falsely shows 0% gpu usage to divert people's attention from it.

Anyway my pc is back to normal now and I did'nt have to reinstall windows or apply thermal paste. My advice is to run malwarebytes and unistall any gpu drivers completely before trying a clean install of the drivers to see if that helps at all.