Terra Nova

[Munimentum]

Plus don't forget that if it isn't an alternate time line then the future would have been changed from the moment the first human set his foot into the past.

Also, I might be missing something here, but how is it possible for them to be communicating with the future and having men and resources sent back from that same point in the future when this is the case?

I don't know why they didn't just have the portal to another planet instead of past Earth, the world could be just as alien but without the stupid, stupid, stupid and overused timetravel line.

 

[edscdk]

? I don't know why they didn't just have the portal to another planet instead of past Earth, the world could be just as alien but without the stupid, stupid, stupid and overused timetravel line.

the portal was accidently created, the suggestion being they did not control where or when it went to...

 

[Munimentum]

Nono, I meant the show creators

 

[Glaucus]

Another planets been done to death as well, with the 6billion stargaze series.

That's one issue, everything been done to death.

 

[Destination]

Nono, I meant the show creators

They want the timeline, as the main focus of the rival factions will revolve around control of the future via decisions made here and now.

 

[MooMoo444]

I was disappointed.

The big flaws for me;

-Lack of technology. It's 2159 and they're bringing machine guns back with them. It's a farce.
-Poor quality CGI. Jurassic Park from years ago had better looking dinosaurs than this.
-Predictable storyline. Going out and picking fruit then suddenly ambushed by dinosaurs. In a landscape filled with dinosaurs, who woulda thunk it?

Theres really not much thought gone into this to be honest. Wheres the lasers that can slice a dinosaur in half from 100 meters away?

I've also seen Ep3 and I'm considering my loyalty to this series. Am not sold

 

[atpbx]

I was disappointed.

The big flaws for me;

-Lack of technology. It's 2159 and they're bringing machine guns back with them. It's a farce.
-Poor quality CGI. Jurassic Park from years ago had better looking dinosaurs than this.
-Predictable storyline. Going out and picking fruit then suddenly ambushed by dinosaurs. In a landscape filled with dinosaurs, who woulda thunk it?

Theres really not much thought gone into this to be honest. Wheres the lasers that can slice a dinosaur in half from 100 meters away?

I've also seen Ep3 and I'm considering my loyalty to this series. Am not sold

Wouldnt by much "contains minor peril" if they took back a battalion of terminator style robots with gatling lazers to look after them.

"oh noes run theres a...........ZAP..... was a dinasaur of some description now a pile of steaming **** thanks to our army of gatling lazer equiped soldier robots"

 

[Glaucus]

I was disappointed.

The big flaws for me;

-Lack of technology. It's 2159 and they're bringing machine guns back with them. It's a farce.
-Poor quality CGI. Jurassic Park from years ago had better looking dinosaurs than this.
-Predictable storyline. Going out and picking fruit then suddenly ambushed by dinosaurs. In a landscape filled with dinosaurs, who woulda thunk it?

Why wouldn't they use machine guns. Also where's the massive energy supply going to come from?

A world fall of dinosaurs. Yep you will pretty much guaranteed to be attacked. It would be silly to think you could be in such a world and just walk through with no problems.

And as said it would be an even worse story line.
Came back, set up home all's well and we have no issues due to tech being so advanced.

 

[TheVoice]

Didn't think much of it at all, find myself agreeing with the majority of the posts here. I'll give it a go for a few more episodes (as I did for Falling Skies) but I imagine that, much like Falling Skies, I'll give up soon.

There's plenty of good stuff out there far more deserving of my attention, doesn't really seem worth wasting time on stuff like this.

 

[da_mic_1530]

I think I went in with very low expectations, which is why I've been pleasantly suprised by it

 

[drunkenmaster]

Why wouldn't they use machine guns. Also where's the massive energy supply going to come from?

A world fall of dinosaurs. Yep you will pretty much guaranteed to be attacked. It would be silly to think you could be in such a world and just walk through with no problems.

And as said it would be an even worse story line.
Came back, set up home all's well and we have no issues due to tech being so advanced.

To be fair, they've gone across, set up power no issue, and the guy in the prison had a pocket james bond like slice through anything laser, the idea they wouldn't take full sized versions of that across is indeed laughable.

This is the problem, write a story where the earth they left had run out of resources and due to fighting over the lack of food due to the destroyed enviroment, tech has barely moved forward and come up with a smart prison escape plan.

What about taking all the technology across, then having an unknown to them previously, I dunno, sun spot storm that knocks out all of their tech and they start from scratch.

Frankly the building of the colony and the first trip across would have been a simply massively better story to start off with.

Hell, your classic stargate/startrek ionic storm knocking out all the tech, its predictable and not original but at the very least it would explain the lack of using lasers and the like.

If you show the tech, you need to(if you don't want them using it) write in a reason the tech gets knocked out, the "they didn't bother taking it" story is just bad. Its like it happening here, and we take bows and arrows for no apparent reason.

As previously said, even crap like, drop your rebreather, you won't need it..... so what, its more equipment, its a bit of tech, at worst its some parts to use, the lack of tacking much with them is absolutely beyond sanity.

Its bad any which way you look at it.

Theres so so many ways the story could be made better, and more complete, with almost no effort or original thought, but it would make the story more complete.

 

[Glaucus]

Well no, they've set up a wind turbine and they don't appear to use anything that energy consuming.
So I don't agree.

 

[THMRK]

I know this is a tech forum and what not, and I fully understand why there's a discussion on the tech of this world and the usage of it but guys, we're only three episodes into the series. If the show is worth its salt, it'll explain a lot of things around the state of the previous world, the technology and such like.

There is PLENTY OF ROOM for exposition here. Although there are plot holes at present, ever thought that some of this is deliberately vague at the moment so they can use it as a plot device later on?

Given the quality of the writing on the show so far, I seriously doubt they'll provide a lot of, if any, exposition on the technology and science of the world they're in, but hey it could happen.

 

[No1newts]

Well no, they've set up a wind turbine and they don't appear to use anything that energy consuming.
So I don't agree.

That wasnt the point

I must with drunkenmaster. It's lazy scripting that they hope people will not notice and question.

I get the feeling many seasons these days which or scifi/fantasy/apocalyptic are no longer made for fans of this genre. They are just a "sexy" padding for a non descript trashy drama series. They dress it all up to drag in fans "oooh look dinosaurs!!!" but it's just bog standard garbage they could cast in a suburban home and the stories would be exactly the same (replace dino with bullies, blah blah etc etc)

There is little to zero scifi made for scifi fans and when they are they are generally canned because there are not enough scifi fans out there for TV bosses to get their easy money from.

In an age where more scifi/fantasy is made, it's becoming more niche for the real stuff.

 

[No1newts]

I know this is a tech forum and what not, and I fully understand why there's a discussion on the tech of this world and the usage of it but guys, we're only three episodes into the series. If the show is worth its salt, it'll explain a lot of things around the state of the previous world, the technology and such like.

There is PLENTY OF ROOM for exposition here. Although there are plot holes at present, ever thought that some of this is deliberately vague at the moment so they can use it as a plot device later on?

Given the quality of the writing on the show so far, I seriously doubt they'll provide a lot of, if any, exposition on the technology and science of the world they're in, but hey it could happen.

Phew that was close!

Just as you typed that some pigs flying past my house in formation nearly hit the helicopter pigs going the other way.

 

[THMRK]

Yeah, it's slim. There probably won't be any explanation of all that, but I'm not going to discount it until at least the half way point in the series.

 

[HighlandeR]

You know what its like someone said.... its scifi its all been done to death

I dont think you will ever see something so genuine and new scifi material, doesnt matter if DS9 was the Babylon5 or if Stargate was the new Star trek....

Its scifi ill still watch it simply because theres nothing else...

Having said that I like falling skies and terra nova is just starting out im sure it will improve or get canceled within season 1.

If your really bored try warehouse13 and Sanctuary

Theres plenty other shows that are not scifi, right now im hooked on community/arrested development although ive done both shows this week already

 

[Neil79]

How long before a deadly bacteria/virus affects the colony episode happens?

 

[drunkenmaster]

Yeah, it's slim. There probably won't be any explanation of all that, but I'm not going to discount it until at least the half way point in the series.

UNfortunately, even if you were right, its a big failure.

3 crap eps, or maybe 20 crap eps, then they explain a few things..... doesn't stop the crap episodes being crap, even if a few of the holes are filled in later, the episodes are not enjoyable, theres no smart humour, theres no interesting characters, the CGI is cringeworthy, the stories are woeful, the acting is painful, the premise was never explained properly, etc, etc.

Lost, had good acting, a great cast(mostly) stunning scenery/location, even though it was utter twaddle, and they made crap up from one moment to the next and none of it made sense, it was watchable..... this isn't.

Explaining some of it now, having SOME of it make sense might make it more watchable NOW.

Its not that I need it explaining, its the show might be better if they put some thought into it, the script and stories would be better, if they made more sense, if they were better, made more sense, and were scripted better....... it would be a better show.

Its not about when they explain things, it just needs to be FAR better as an entire show, story, acting, plot holes, things explained, characters, etc.

How long before a deadly bacteria/virus affects the colony episode happens?

Honestly, I think we might have skipped right past that, thats a bog standard season one sci-fi filler ep, we're already seeing season 3-4 ones

In all seriousness, yes, something will infect everyone, everyone except one person who happens to be taking a certain kind of medication, which they can't replicate but bears a striking similarity to a chemical they found in some fruit that is in a really dangerous area, it writes itself, most sci-fi does these days.

Thing is, an unoriginal story done really well, can make for great tv, a completely original idea, done badly, WILL suck. When you do unoriginal, and bad...... you get Terra Nova

You don't NEED to be original to be good, its normally when people insist on being original you get something bad, because good ideas have been thought of, and so have the bad ones, they've just been discarded before for being bad.

 

[THMRK]

UNfortunately, even if you were right, its a big failure.

3 crap eps, or maybe 20 crap eps, then they explain a few things..... doesn't stop the crap episodes being crap, even if a few of the holes are filled in later, the episodes are not enjoyable, theres no smart humour, theres no interesting characters, the CGI is cringeworthy, the stories are woeful, the acting is painful, the premise was never explained properly, etc, etc.

Lost, had good acting, a great cast(mostly) stunning scenery/location, even though it was utter twaddle, and they made crap up from one moment to the next and none of it made sense, it was watchable..... this isn't.

Explaining some of it now, having SOME of it make sense might make it more watchable NOW.

Its not that I need it explaining, its the show might be better if they put some thought into it, the script and stories would be better, if they made more sense, if they were better, made more sense, and were scripted better....... it would be a better show.

Its not about when they explain things, it just needs to be FAR better as an entire show, story, acting, plot holes, things explained, characters, etc.

Yes, that's exactly my point. This is, at best, light sci-fi. The problem is much more fundamental than exposition of the fictional reality its set. There's always plenty of time to flesh that stuff out.

On the other hand, if we were to talk in terms of the apparatus of the show then the construction of the reality is still absolute, despite the lack of explanation of the finer details.

Hell, the fact they've set the show where they have instead of in the distant future is an attempt to try and tell a story free from the baggage sci-fi often brings.