Testing testing, one two three

Shovinus · 27 Aug 2020 at 13:09

thenewoc said:
Just out of interest what was the reason for wanting to change away from a sub domain for the forums?

Deleted member 77746 · 27 Aug 2020 at 13:09

thenewoc said:
Just out of interest what was the reason for wanting to change away from a sub domain for the forums?

Shovinus said:
Efficiency, I won't go in to the details but you should have noticed it is snappier, once we redistribute the other server even more so.
Some issues were not predicted, testing in the staging environment though cannot find all issues of course.

thenewoc · 27 Aug 2020 at 13:09

FoxEye said:
A reason obviously worth jettisoning the "if it aint broke" mantra

Deleted member 77746 · 27 Aug 2020 at 13:14

Will there be loads of Google broken links now?

andy_mk3 · 27 Aug 2020 at 13:15

Bouton Aide said:
Will there be loads of Google broken links now?

If their nginx rewrite rules are written correctly, then no ;p

thenewoc · 27 Aug 2020 at 13:15

Shovinus said:
Testing testing, one two three

Thanks, didn't read the entire thread. Seems like the performance is down to a change of server though, I've never heard of a sub domain causing performance issues. Thought perhaps it was being done for SEO reasons.

Shovinus · 27 Aug 2020 at 13:37

thenewoc said:
Thanks, didn't read the entire thread. Seems like the performance is down to a change of server though, I've never heard of a sub domain causing performance issues. Thought perhaps it was being done for SEO reasons.

The performance is up, only the bugs which hopefully we have all fixed were causing issues. The forums is now running on 3 servers with memcache instead of 1 with file cache, soon it and the main site will be running on 4 servers.
Many people have reported it is faster, if it is slower for you then it might be something we need to look in to.

LuckyBenski · 27 Aug 2020 at 13:45

It's slower and also less consistent for me

issues with avatars, rendering of posts, also posts no longer say "today" in a subforum. They say today's date in full.

Assumed it was all just transition stuff but maybe I should report some issues?

Edit: I use Chrome on Android.

Shovinus · 27 Aug 2020 at 13:52

LuckyBenski said:
It's slower and also less consistent for me issues with avatars, rendering of posts, also posts no longer say "today" in a subforum. They say today's date in full.

Assumed it was all just transition stuff but maybe I should report some issues?

Edit: I use Chrome on Android.

Yes please @LuckyBenski that is what we are looking to find and fix.

thenewoc · 27 Aug 2020 at 13:55

Shovinus said:
The performance is up, only the bugs which hopefully we have all fixed were causing issues. The forums is now running on 3 servers with memcache instead of 1 with file cache, soon it and the main site will be running on 4 servers.
Many people have reported it is faster, if it is slower for you then it might be something we need to look in to.

Yes it is noticeable faster but I doubt that is connected with the sub domain. I notice when looking at a thread where some post(s) have pictures that the page is reported in Chrome as 'not secure'. Not sure if this also occurred when the sub domain was used.

Shovinus · 27 Aug 2020 at 14:02

thenewoc said:
Yes it is noticeable faster but I doubt that is connected with the subdomain. I notice when looking at a thread where some post(s) have pictures that the page is reported in Chrome as 'not secure'. Not sure if this also occurred when the subdomain was used.

It is the signatures, some people have used links without https, the main content is secure.
Not really to do with subdomain, forums used to be on a single server by itself and main shop was on 3 servers using Load Balancer, we decided to switch to having forums be a sub folder on the main site and all content spread across 4 servers.
No point trying to keep it on a subdomain while doing that and even if we had these issues would have arisen as most were caused by the LB itself, as it should also improve SEO there is an active advantage to leave it as a sub folder when we moved too.

ianh · 27 Aug 2020 at 14:22

Shovinus said:
It is the signatures, some people have used links without https, the main content is secure.
Not really to do with subdomain, forums used to be on a single server by itself and main shop was on 3 servers using Load Balancer, we decided to switch to having forums be a sub folder on the main site and all content spread across 4 servers.
No point trying to keep it on a subdomain while doing that and even if we had these issues would have arisen as most were caused by the LB itself, as it should also improve SEO there is an active advantage to leave it as a sub folder when we moved too.

It may have been an idea to give people say a weeks notice before carrying out the swap, letting them know that their various links, signatures, images etc all will need to change over to the new address. It may have negated some of the more obvious issues people are having.

Shovinus · 27 Aug 2020 at 14:35

ianh said:
It may have been an idea to give people say a weeks notice before carrying out the swap, letting them know that their various links, signatures, images etc all will need to change over to the new address. It may have negated some of the more obvious issues people are having.

The links/media button etc issue is a pure bug that was not evident in staging tests, and so we did not know about nor could have realized until we did the move. From our tests the move should have been painless as staging required only a couple of file changes to work with the newer PHP version.
If we had known about the load balancer bugs you likely would have not even noticed the change.
Are you however talking about a different issue? You state "their various links, signatures, images etc all will need to change over", I assume you are skimming content and thinking the button issue is this (It was a modal form loading issue and not a transfer of files issue), but if you know of a different problem please tell me how to replicate and I can look in to it.

ThestigGT999 · 27 Aug 2020 at 14:36

I can

ianh · 27 Aug 2020 at 14:44

Shovinus said:
Are you however talking about a different issue? You state "their various links, signatures, images etc all will need to change over", I assume you are skimming content and thinking the button issue is this (It was a modal form loading issue and not a transfer of files issue), but if you know of a different problem please tell me how to replicate and I can look in to it.

The link in my sig had to be manually changed as it was linked to the old forums.overclockers address and the old address thread came up as a 404 last night when the link was clicked.

I'm assuming (so could be wrong) that the situation might be the same for anyone else who had forum.overclockers links in their Sigs to things like build threads etc. However maybe mine alone was being effected during a bout of forum oddness and the old forum.overclockers link addresses in people Sigs will properly auto-redirect to the new address without issue but it certainly didn't happen in my case.

Shovinus · 27 Aug 2020 at 15:03

ianh said:
The link in my sig had to be manually changed as it was linked to the old forums.overclockers address and the old address thread came up as a 404 last night when the link was clicked.

I'm assuming (so could be wrong) that the situation might be the same for anyone else who had forum.overclockers links in their Sigs to things like build threads etc. However maybe mine alone was being effected during a bout of forum oddness and the old forum.overclockers link addresses in people Sigs will properly auto-redirect to the new address without issue but it certainly didn't happen in my case.

If it was last night there is a very good chance one of the fixes or redirects we have done has solved your issue, you could try reverting the link to see.

alchal · 27 Aug 2020 at 16:21

Blind as a bat.
Should i maybe go to the opticians?

Deleted member 77746 · 27 Aug 2020 at 18:31

ianh said:
It may have been an idea to give people say a weeks notice before carrying out the swap, letting them know that their various links, signatures, images etc all will need to change over to the new address. It may have negated some of the more obvious issues people are having.

What you on about? Nobody has needed to change their sig links/graphics e.t.c they not hosted with ocuk.

Em3bbs · 27 Aug 2020 at 18:41

Bouton Aide said:
What you on about? Nobody has needed to change their sig links/graphics e.t.c they not hosted with ocuk.

The text in his sig links to a forum thread.

ianh · 27 Aug 2020 at 18:42

Bouton Aide said:
What you on about? Nobody has needed to change their sig links/graphics e.t.c they not hosted with ocuk.

ianh said:
The link in my sig had to be manually changed as it was linked to the old forums.overclockers address and the old address thread came up as a 404 last night when the link was clicked.

I'm assuming (so could be wrong) that the situation might be the same for anyone else who had forum.overclockers links in their Sigs to things like build threads etc. However maybe mine alone was being effected during a bout of forum oddness and the old forum.overclockers link addresses in people Sigs will properly auto-redirect to the new address without issue but it certainly didn't happen in my case.

The post below the one you quoted.