Texture pop, poor draw distance, AA, LOD and tessellation, shadow flashing

Ormy1 said:
I haven't read every reply but I've read the entire opening post. My guess is that yanking the GPU out of the pcie slot has caused damage to the mobo in a way that is affecting both pcie slots.

The only other thing it could be is graphics drivers but if you done a completely fresh install of win10 and GPU drivers then it can't be that. Just for the sake of thoroughness you could try another fresh win10 install followed by an even older graphics driver version but I doubt it will work since you already tried a previously-working driver version and that didn't fix it.
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Yeah I thought that, so I have another asus x570-p (same mobo) on the way to see if it fixes it.

A few people have said though if there was damage I'd get BSODs or much worse issues. But it does seem quite suspect that this was noticed RIGHT after I took/yanked out the 3080ti and put in the 3070ti... Or else I never would have sold the 3080ti to someone.

Some guys on another thread seem to think it's because I updated the mobo bios from Windows using asus EZ flash, as that's something you should never ever do apparently.
I always thought the bios was only responsible for exactly that though - the basic checks during post before it hands everything over to windows.

But guys here know their stuff. Flashing the bios again now (from the bios) as we speak.
 
Just in case anyone here wants to see videos:

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Texture pop less than one metre, and see though holes (Inc map to where most of these videos are, but this happens everywhere)...
https://streamable.com/ryexqm

Holes in textures on cliff Wall
https://streamable.com/d53ot4

Really bad tessellation
https://streamable.com/i46xxf

Texture pop on rocks, close range radial
https://streamable.com/nd51mr

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This is from the campfire just south of devil's grief, Aloy facing east:
Flashy and glitchy shadows
https://streamable.com/y7fgnz

Texture pop on icicles? in the cave hoard, by banuk encampment
https://streamable.com/fyivjt

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I've got many more vids, also same things happening in other games, but quality is really bad on upload site there and can't be arsed unless you guys wanna see. Or have my phone number to WhatsApp easily lol.
I just checked you can only send pics on steam.
 
Ormy1 said:
I would tend to agree, but the timing works out as you said and it looks like you've eliminated pretty much every other possibility. "When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."



It's possible, the BIOS also handles the low-level communications between different components like storage devices and PCIE devices and the CPU. They are right that you should never update BIOS from within windows.

Do let us know whether either the BIOS flash or a new mobo fixes the issue.
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The bios flashback has caused all kinds of issues... Again I'm starting to think this mobo is very screwed.

So took me hours to get the bios rolled back (kept saying "file is not a bios file" or something (it was). Turns out I can only jump back like 2 steps in a bios backdate. I tried like 6, 5, 4, 3 then worked on 2.

After that, it wouldn't let me install gpu driver... Kept on failing.

Then... After backdating bios a few more steps back, I get the message on windows splash screen: "it looks like something went wrong with your pin, click here to set another".
Except when I do that, type in my password then mobile no, I never get a text to reset it.

I turn the security boot thing in bios to eufi mode, same issue. Change it to "other os" which is was on before, same issue.


I'm having to reinstall windows again now. Hopefully can then install the gpu driver.
 
eeii said:
I remember for horizon zero dawn it needed the PCIE slot to be running at the maximum speed so check your bios. I would also remove any programs that have overlays or disable them. Like discord, steam, and Xbox windows.
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Yeah tried in pcie4.0 slot running at pcie4.0 x 16 and same issue.

Same issue on new system, must be game software issue.

Interesting you say about removing apps with overlays like steam though... If no steam or xbox app, how would you even launch the game? Can you launch it without opening steam somehow?
 
Hi guys thought I'd give an update as been testing on brand new system, not a single part used from the old system, pc in different power socket in diff room.
issues persist on 3/4 games tested so far.
Horizon - all issues.
Spellforce - shadow flash and poor AA in those areas only.
Ff xv - shadows flashing, poor draw and bad AA.
Hellblade - lod/pop and shadows/AA, all fixed. **note this game has recently been updated**

Games below tested (3 out of ttl of 10 games I'm testing).

So a few guys on the horizon forum are saying the issues wouldn't bother them so I'm starting to think the virus is in my brain despite even the Mrs saying it looks bad .

Can you guys can confirm this stuff really wouldn't bother you, you do see it often (basically every game in some shape or form), and that is how we expect shadows/textures/jaggies to be rendered nowadays?
I'll put this to bed then and accept its just me.

Been gaming for like 30years and honestly can't think of why it's not bothered me before (even though I have amblyopia/lazy eye and so my one eye is quite sensitive to flashing):

Ffxv flashing shadows and textures:
https://streamable.com/mbe84n

Spellforce 3 flashing shadows:
https://streamable.com/4aan6h

Ffxv flashing/moving jaggies, bad AA
https://streamable.com/gg81ij

Comanche all trees have flashing shadows (confirmed via YouTube vids this isn't normal but not the best quality game compared to the rest tbh):
https://streamable.com/53f9bm


Cheers for all advice so far guys
 
I'll also be testing soon (issues were to a lesser degree in most of these)
mk11,
soul calibur 6,
red dead 2,
alien fireteam elite,
Tomb raider, rise of
Man eater
....... pretty much every 3d game I've played recently.
 
saaat said:
Hey, sorry for writing after this time but this problem seems like a pandemic for many gamers. Nearly every game sub has a post in it adressing this issue and many people waiting for developers to fix it. But it seem like the issue is nothing to do with that.

Could it be a problem of windows? Or do you have a solution? I don’t know but the fun is gone in many games with this issue and i couldn’t find a fix :(
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Yeah I haven't even seen many devs comment on it. Honestly I looked into it for months and put in countless hours of work and testing; built an entirely new test rig, joined forums specifically to try fix the issue, to no avail. I also asked my bro to send me a video when we played a game with LOD issues: 2/2 times he saw the exact same thing, but "didn't really bother" him.

The only possible explanation I can think of is these issues were there all along, on just those games and I just didn't notice it, and it's like a dead pixel on a 4k screen - once you know it's there it's impossible to not notice it and get annoyed by it... and this brain virus then affects your thought process on a new game you play.

However a few things make me doubt this theory:
1) Some games I compared a 4k 60fps vids on youtube to my game, and the LOD in particular was NOT there. May be different versions of game, however the most recent patch wouldn't get the go ahead makes me doubt that.
2) Some games are SO freaking bad it would seem impossible to NOT notice them immediately and for others to not notice. eg Subnautica. Played it for a good 20hours, only noticed on a new gpu... MAYBE cos I was scrutinising the new gpu and higher settings?

I guess game devs are just still very limited to how much detail can be rendered at a certain distance. Seems odd to have such an old school limitation in 2023, especially in games that are damn near photo realistic, but I don't know enough about game development to know why this issue/limitation has not really been cracked yet or even had a more fluid LOD distance tech invented, with say low res textures that GRADUALLY blend into higher res textures rather than popping instantly and drawing your attention to it.
But it would seem some, even AAA devs seem to either be crap at it or don't care. Massive trees appearing 100m in front of you in Rise of The Tomb raider shouldn't be acceptable but apparently it is.
 
p.s I dont think I ever did try windows 11 but many other in the forums did to no avail. I also heard people saying maybe dirty power from the wall, but well my bro has the same issues as me and find hard to believe.
 
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