what about the 7man vs Crack Clan? and the numerous 4 and 5 mans? Did you close your eyes for those bitsAnyway i'm getting too defensive now.
Do you play TF2 competitively?
As for spawn camping, where did that come from? :s
Could the hitboxes for melee in tf2 be any dodgier? That first kill with the bottle was retarded, he was a good 5-6 feet away and still hit.
That's TF2 for you mate, TFC dumbed down for the masses.
Shame that FF isn't as popular as TFC otherwise I'd probably be back playing that.
I wouln't say its dumbed down at all, its not meant to be tfc with a graphical overhaul which seems to be what most tfc players rant about. Who in their right minds would wait 10 years for a game only to get the exact same gameplay with better graphics? If thats the case every fps multi from here on out may as well be quake 3 gameplay with better graphics.
It plays differently and tfc players can't use all their little tricks and gimmicks from a decade old game. So they have to start from the same level as everyone else, thats really what they're peeved about.
I have my own issues with the game but its a ton of fun.
Well considering that TFC was and is the best squad/team based online fps game ever created