A dealer offer me 72K for it with 8K on the clock about 12 months ago...as an example. I told them to go bum a cat as that was mad money.
Really had not realised, had a look around last night, 2013/14 S-tronic V10's are now hovering around 65k with Plus models around 70k so you are right, they have certainly come down. But if your keeping it then like you said and a few others have told me, do not worry about it, enjoy the car, at some point it will bottom. As the older V10's all seem to be above 50k, it does seem like the scraps of the barrel of still hovering around 50k so I suspect 60k is the bottom to buy one, obviously to sell one who knows if taking easy route of dealership.
Really given it so much thought and all I can consider:
- New Mustang @ 49k, maximum of 10k finance and just regular finance or bank loan at around 4% for 24 months. I'd spend around 5k on it, a bit extreme and a year later with my spend on it I'd estimate value at 40k, so all in all a 10-15k ownership cost. Interest cost would be minimal, about 1k as I'd pay it off within 12 months anyway.
- Jag SVR @ 75k (going to just offer 75k and stick to my guns), Maximum of 40k finance, 3yr with balloon. I'd spend nothing on it, because nothing to really do and I'd not want to have any issues with warranty, my only cost would be consumables, servicing and warranty extension in 2019 to maintain value and cover cost of any expensive failure. In a years time I suspect it would be worth 70k, 2yr 60k and in 3yr 50-55k looking at the values of the not so special regular V8 models. The SVR has a lot going for it to help value, crazy high buy price, coupe, AWD and flagship model which are rarer, sold in less numbers.
- 991.1 GT3 @ 125k, found a nice yellow one, a few for sale at 115k but they are all white and I do not like them in white, looks a bit boring. I'd increase deposit to 50k, but that is then 75k on finance which to me seems outrageous and I really dislike the idea off, but will chat with Housey and some others later to see how other people do this. The plus side is in 3yr time it should still be worth over 110k, might even hold its value but of course I will put plenty of miles on the car, talking 6000-10,000 per year which may not sound a lot but on expensive machinery its generally more than normal.
Mustang: I am a fanboy, you all now that, I've always liked them and they are typical a very capable GT handling level of car, the new one will be handling wise pretty much on a similar level to a regular M4 if you option the mag ride type stuff but it has a far better engine, that has character and loves to rev and sounds a million times better. It is a car that gets Ferrari levels of attention, but not the jealous type and they are really nice place to be, even if a bit on the cheaper side but the actual cabin and infotainment system is nice and excellent. It is pretty quick too 0-60 in 3.9, 0-100 in 8.5 and 1/4 in 12@119 so it is by no means slow and it is modding friendly. Handling awesome in dry, a bit of a lemon in the wet but keep it smooth and you will be fine, but a hot hatch or other marque will generally be more capable in wet on a British B road. Get to keep M3 too!
SVR: My last time in an F-type was a V8S rag top, it was a short test drive and the car never really left an impression on me except for the epic noise, did not get to truly experience acceleration as it just blitzed its tyres and sales guy did not approve. But then I got one for a day, albeit the V6S but as a road car I found it really superb, I thoroughly enjoyed the playful chassis, the gearbox was nothing short of fantastic and it made me grin and laugh like a big kid for most of the day, even more so than my Mustang did due to its outrageous stock exhaust and this was not even the V8. So for I feel the SVR is a major attraction, I see it as a British Mustang, now I know for some that is a downside because its not 40k, it is 80k and as such some here just don't like it or think its worth the cash. But like the Mustang I absolutely love the idea of that gorgeous and obnoxious sounding V8, the pops, gargles, farts, bangs, gunshots that is me through and through. Then the absolutely sheer and brutal acceleration it should offer and I am sure it does, in fact it should feel like my first Mustang, identical power figures its just a bit heavier but has AWD and much quicker gear box so should feel just as savage and actually be quicker and in my old Mustang that level of power never got old as it was just the right balance of power for its chassis, only ever an issue in cold/wet which as I ultimately got older went from fun (sliding) to a bit annoying when you just wanted to make relative fast progress on a wet road. So for me the SVR has the looks, noise, ease of extracting its performance and its proper fast. 3.1 to 60, 7 to 100 and around low 11's in quarter mile in a stock car that is consistent due to its ZF8. It really is a me car and very much in my eyes like my old Saleen Mustang, epic looks, in your face, stupidly loud and stupidly fast, but just more up market and easier to extract its performance which now I am older I want. I also get to keep the M3!
911 GT3: A dream car, that rides superb on road like SVR, don't be fooled by the GT3 badge, they also make fantastic road cars and even though it is RWD the mechanical traction is only stuff the Jag could dream off, though of course the AWD of the Jag might be easier and more desirable on a wet road. Performance stats even though it has less power it is pretty identical to the Jaguar due to it weighing a good 300kg less and PDK just being super quick, though I must admit I think the ZF8 had a little more character and is probably a little easier to launch, as no LC just stomp and go, I believe GT3 has LC which you don't use in daily situations, but not 100% sure. Buying a GT3 now would make me do something I don't really want to do, sell the M3, not because I need to, but that much finance lingering over my head, I'd just want to clear chunks of it off as quick as possible, I'd sell the M3, my coins and probably stop enjoying life so much to just clear the finance off, mentally for me its a bit of a worry as I tend to like to own things or have the bigger majority stake in the car so if I have a change of mind I can sell easily without hassle.
Problem is I love all three of them for different reasons, they are all super rare sights on the road, OK in my neck of the woods anyway, I am sure some of you see 100 Mustangs, 20 GT3's and 10 SVR's every day. They all appeal to me in a different way to the point I really want both the SVR and the GT3, that is impossible by the way. The Jag I love the noise, the V8 and the AWD would make it a great road car all weather that looks special. The GT3 I love the precision and the cabin noise from winding its motor out and just the fact its a scalpel and it would be as good on track as it is the road, that is also a downside, all that money tied up into finance I'd want to do track days, which would dramatically increase the running cost. My old 911 cost quite a lot of money to run due to the vast amount of track days I did, brakes, tyres, servicing it seems cheap at first but combined with cost of track days, the fuel and before you know it your spending several thousand a year which is fine if you own the car or the finance is small.
I am just trying to be level headed, right now SVR is favourite because the car has an appeal to me I cannot quite put my finger on. My only concern is it being worth half what it is today in say 3yr time, that is a bit too much to stomach. Of course only an issue if I decided to sell it. Hopefully Jag will release a new SVR next year with a turbo charged motor that sounds rubbish, has no character and thus the old models start too appreciate, or on the flip side they keep the SC V8, make it even better, keep the price the same at which point yes my SVR would become worth even less. DOH!
That is pretty much my thoughts, no decisions made yet, giving it plenty of thought and I feel I don't need to rush, plenty of SVR for sale including two blue ones at 80k, I am just going to watch and see if they move, if they sell I am sure more will appear, if they do not sell it gives me more ammunition to barter with a dealer selling.
P.S. Or an R8 V10 S-tronic at around 70k-80k, but as we can see those are also depreciating and though I like them, I just feel the SVR is more a me car, there is something about the R8 which i cannot put my finger on but I am not wanting one as much, maybe because they are a bit too easy to drive fast and not as easy to be playful in. Can't put my finger on it, but to me just seems a bit less special, zips up flame proof suite.
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