The absolute state of pubs these days

JonRGV250 said:
Prices are decent...

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The image below is a snapshot of the beer menu on the wall of the Case. The entries on the top half of the board (above the white line) show which casks are currently on tap and those ‘coming next’ are listed below. The numbers in red on the left identify the handpump the beer […]
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Yup, it’s a very nice place to live and some people have moved from near by villages because of the pub.
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Are those prices for a pint? That's crazy if so. You never see that in London. Lucky to get ****ing **** **** ******** **** ****ing Doom Bar for under £6!
 
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JonRGV250 said:
Yes, but remember, there’s no wages to pay and very little overheads.
If anything needs doing to the pub we have every kind of tradesman in the village so we save a fortune on maintenance.
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Kind of puts pub prices into perspective if the only way you can charge “acceptable” prices is a volunteer model. I’d love everywhere to be £3 or £4 a pint but realistically only the likes of Wetherspoons can do that through huge economies of scale, and I’m aware of some breweries selling to them at a loss which is ridiculous. That latter behaviour puts the whole industry at risk because it reinforces the belief that beer is cheap to make and should be cheap to buy, when the reality is anything but.
 
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One More Solo said:
Kind of puts pub prices into perspective if the only way you can charge “acceptable” prices is a volunteer model. I’d love everywhere to be £3 or £4 a pint but realistically only the likes of Wetherspoons can do that through huge economies of scale, and I’m aware of some breweries selling to them at a loss which is ridiculous. That latter behaviour puts the whole industry at risk because it reinforces the belief that beer is cheap to make and should be cheap to buy, when the reality is anything but.
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The spit and sawdust model worked very well. Who needs 10 different pumps when two or three would do. The same with spirits or wine. Who really needs carpets and plush banquettes to sit upon. Beer can be cheap if made locally and the brewery do not extort big prices from the house. There is still a lot if profit in beer, it often gets diverted before the publican can pour it.
 
If you have one, go to the local brewery instead of a pub. I realise you won’t be tripping over these but I’d prefer to go to one of these than a pub (Unless it’s a good pub serving good craft beer)
 
Shadowness said:
If you have one, go to the local brewery instead of a pub. I realise you won’t be tripping over these
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Actually, I am. I live near Bermondsey and we have an absolute ****load of them around here. The best are Cloudwater, Partizan and The Kernel.
 
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It's bad in some places, I was paying best part of £7 a pint in Cheltenham last week but here in the NW it's still £3 or even under for a decent pint in a (fairly) nice boozer.
 
Hagar said:
The spit and sawdust model worked very well. Who needs 10 different pumps when two or three would do. The same with spirits or wine. Who really needs carpets and plush banquettes to sit upon. Beer can be cheap if made locally and the brewery do not extort big prices from the house. There is still a lot if profit in beer, it often gets diverted before the publican can pour it.
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beernouveau.co.uk

Costs, Quality (Again) And That Elusive Profit

Earlier today I posted on Twitter about the costs of producing beer, and the potential profits to be gained from different packaging. I admit that the figures were a bit haphazard, taken across a c…
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Article is a few years old but sums up the challenges facing breweries. You should tell a brewer there is still a lot of profit in beer. :cry:
 
McBain said:
It's bad in some places, I was paying best part of £7 a pint in Cheltenham last week but here in the NW it's still £3 or even under for a decent pint in a (fairly) nice boozer.
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That’s where I live. What were you drinking for £7? Go to Deya, £3.50 for a pint of Steady straight from the source :)
 
Shadowness said:
That’s where I live. What were you drinking for £7? Go to Deya, £3.50 for a pint of Steady straight from the source :)
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To be fair that was at the racecourse :p

We had a few in the Brewery Quarter though and it was £16+ for a round of 3.

Also went to the Spectre to watch the footy but im not a fan of it in there. £14 a round of 3.
 
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Its all sorts of reasons I think, but cost is deffo going to be a big one.

Its an expensive hobby to go to a pub where it costs nearly a tenner just for one drink, then you have the fruit machine demise, from the greed brought in with the £1 a spin fruit machines which killed of that revenue stream for them.
Pubs are one industry however where I think its not down to pub landlord greed, they are been shafted by rents and suppliers, and they in that downward spiral where they need to charge more to even break even, that then loses them customers which means prices has to go up again, then more customers lost and so on.

A pub near me has decided to only open on home football match days now. About the only time they can get a decent number of people in.
 
chrcoluk said:
then you have the fruit machine demise, from the greed brought in with the £1 a spin fruit machines which killed of that revenue stream for them.
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Yes, you hardly ever see fruit machines now. Is this what happened? They got too expensive?
 
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JonRGV250 said:
Prices are decent...

Current Ales - The Case Is Altered

The image below is a snapshot of the beer menu on the wall of the Case. The entries on the top half of the board (above the white line) show which casks are currently on tap and those ‘coming next’ are listed below. The numbers in red on the left identify the handpump the beer […]
www.thecasepubbentley.co.uk www.thecasepubbentley.co.uk

Yup, it’s a very nice place to live and some people have moved from near by villages because of the pub.
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A local pub for local people.
 
Lysander said:
Yes, you hardly ever see fruit machines now. Is this what happened? They got too expensive?
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Yeah the jackpots kept going up which meant the cost of play went up as well, plus with how compensated machines work (long losing runs to fund jackpots), you could stick a fiver in and you done in 20 seconds. I think they pretty much dead in pubs now.

I am not really a very social person but I recognise the importance of places like pubs for communities and am saddened with whats happening.
 
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StriderX said:
Pubs can't compete with stores. Especially difficult when keeping the heating on all day with business rates the way they are and this is on top of pitifully low-wage growth.

Either we tax store-bought alcohol as a means to provide pubs some sort of discount or let pubs die.
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Our one and only pub has this covered as the only shop and post office is attached to it and cheapest bottle of red is about £8,, it also gets a lot of walkers/ tourists, some doing the Poldark trail (also doc martins sons birth filmed here)
 
Lysander said:
Actually, I am. I live near Bermondsey and we have an absolute ****load of them around here. The best are Cloudwater, Partizan and The Kernel.
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Hah nice, Im not local but have done "the bermondsey mile" several times.

The last time we got back only about 7pm, I didn't think I was too bad until I realised I could barely string a sentence together.
 
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