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***The AGP & PCI-E Graphics Card Buyers Guide***

Discussion in 'Graphics Cards' started by melbourne720, Jan 31, 2007.

  1. Floob

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    Can anyone provide a link to these?
     
  2. melbourne720

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  3. bubblebobble

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    evga 8800gt 512mb x2 sli

    HI,
    my first post guys,
    ok i have these graphics cards on a j+w ip35 pro mobo with 4gb sli ram and a q6600.
    question is this:
    I purchased the additional graphics card so I could use a sli bridge to get better performance, does it matter my mobo has no apparant support for sli?
    thanks
     
  4. melbourne720

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    That motherboard doesn't support SLi, only crossfire (2 x ATi cards). You won't be able to SLi to NVidia cards in that mobo.

    What card do you have two of?
     
  5. Arthalen

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    Time to add in the ATI 3870 XT and Nvidia 9600GT Melbourne ?
     
  6. melbourne720

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    Indeed, I'm trying to ascertain where the 9600 GT falls, some say above the 8800 GT, some say below it :D
     
  7. Arthalen

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    IMHO its falls below both the 8800GT and the 3870 XT, but is faster than the 3850 and 8800GS.

    Quite a cramped price bracket now...
     
  8. melbourne720

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    Thanks for your opinion, am revising the OP now.
     
  9. mishima

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    Not been on the forums for a while, I see the new ATI X2 is fastest - are they much faster than GTX ultra's?
     
  10. melbourne720

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    Hi Mish, good to hear from you again.

    I very much depends on the game tbh. I think the NVidia cards are still the thing if crysis is your one and only game, but the X2 pulls ahead in a lot of other titles.
     
  11. mishima

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    So ATI are still very much behind in the battle then? The GTX has been out for a long time now and they have finally come up with something that equals it?
     
  12. SooTyLaD

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    could someone slot the X800 XT PE into the above list?
     
  13. semi-pro waster

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    For AGP or PCI-E? From what I remember it is more or less the same on AGP as the X850XT (PE), the only difference is that the X850 series used a different process which enabled higher yields. For PCI-E then you are looking at performance roughly equivalent to a 7600GT but with higher power usage and no DX9 compliance.
     
  14. SooTyLaD

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    I'm looking at getting the AGP version, so wondering how it was stacking up for not only speed but also power :)
     
  15. melbourne720

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    Updated for the 9800 GX2. Thanks for fielding the question semi pro, is their no end to your PC knowledge? ;)
     
  16. Indy500

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    I know this is largely pointless now, but for those on a tiny budget:

    Radeon 9500 < Radeon 9600 < Geforce 4 Ti < Radeon 9500 Pro

    The 9500 Pro has double the pixel rendering power of the 9600, I don't know why you put it below. Sure, in the odd game at lower res it may match it, but for the most part, 8 pipelines > 4. The Geforce 4 Ti series may only be Directx 8 compliant, but their 8 pixels per clock architecture puts them ahead of the Radeon 9600 apart from when AA\AF are enabled.

    You also got the wattage figures wrong - the 9500 requires a floppy power connector so its a lot more than just 17W, that includes the non-pro version.

    Of course as you may know the Radeon 9500 non-pro has a high chance of softmodding to a 9700 if it has an L-shaped memory configuration, ie the 128MB version. Worth picking up if you see one, as when modded it vastly outperforms all of the above and matches the Radeon 9700.

    :)
     
  17. jrodga2k5

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    An update to the type of gamer section if you have time melbourne :)
     
  18. melbourne720

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    will do, its long overdue :)

    If anyone has anything they want to add then feel free to post it and I will add it to the original post :)
     
  19. mishima

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    Some GTX 280 and ATI 4800 should be good too! I'll update my website with the info as and when mate
     
  20. emgee

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    Very useful, thanks for all the effort.

    For the next update, clarification of HD TV capabilities might be useful, specifically which are HDCP compliant (i.e. they'll play Blu-Ray DVDs), which can connect directly from a DVI to a HDMI socket, and which will really support 1080p/50 Hz playback. Many modern cards doubtless do all three, but, for example, unless it actually says "HDCP compliant", which it almost never does, on etailer sites it's hard to be sure.