Look for a second hand R9 290X *should* be more than enough to play the games for the next 12-18 months well on that screen, then see where AMD stand next year.
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The AMD dilemma because of freesync.
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Look for a second hand R9 290X *should* be more than enough to play the games for the next 12-18 months well on that screen, then see where AMD stand next year.
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I don't really see the problem. The Fury and 980Ti are close enough in performance that a Fury + Freesync is going to be completely indistinguishable in use from a 980Ti + GSync. But the Fury/FS setup works out a fair bit cheaper.
In a similar position Tony, although I don't think the fury is as bad as what people make it out to be....
- new tech. and so it will improve with better drivers especially when you get on w10 and with dx 12, just look at most amd gpu releases, they usually improve a few weeks after release with better drivers and the 2xx series are getting even more performance with the modded windows 10/3xx drivers, in fact, the 290(x) are performing very similar to the 390(x) with those drivers.... I think even the 7xxx series are getting big performance boosts with the modded drivers. The fury x is still a very good performer "overall" atm, it is just the pricing that needs to drop a tiny bit more especially when the 980ti has just dropped to the £500 mark
- initial price gouging, give it a month or 2 and I'm sure the fury will drop below £500, just look at the 295x2, 290(x) etc. Also, as you know yourself, take what gibbo says with a pinch of salt, supposedly the 980ti weren't going to be dropping to £500 any time soon just last weekend....
I wouldn't bother with the 3xx series, joke of a release them! Better of picking up second hand 290x from the mm and just wait it out for a few months, if AMD **** up, then sell your screen and get 980ti + gsync screen.
Personally I think I will probably switch to nvidia in the future but I don't really fancy going from slow drivers (which I think will improve once AMD get their W10 drivers working perfectly) to unstable drivers (which nvidia probably will sort out sooner than later as well...), nothing more annoying than having stability issues.... plus, nvidia don't seem to support their older cards as well as AMD. I also don't really want to support things like gameworks....
As for myself, I am thinking of just going with the samsung 34" screen now, no free/g sync but I don't want to be tied into AMD and there is absolutely no way I am paying an extra £150+ just for a gsync version of a monitor and there is no way I am paying £700+ for acer or asus gsync monitors who unfortunately (or maybe fortunately?) seem to be the only ones interested in gsync
It is a ****ing nuisance nvidia not taking on adaptive sync.
Unfortunately, both sides are just a ****ing joke now.
I have no brand loyalty to either of these ****** GPU brands
, I have always chosen AMD because they offered better bang per buck though.
- new tech. and so it will improve with better drivers especially when you get on w10 and with dx 12, just look at most amd gpu releases, they usually improve a few weeks after release with better drivers and the 2xx series are getting even more performance with the modded windows 10/3xx drivers, in fact, the 290(x) are performing very similar to the 390(x) with those drivers.... I think even the 7xxx series are getting big performance boosts with the modded drivers. The fury x is still a very good performer "overall" atm, it is just the pricing that needs to drop a tiny bit more especially when the 980ti has just dropped to the £500 mark
- initial price gouging, give it a month or 2 and I'm sure the fury will drop below £500, just look at the 295x2, 290(x) etc. Also, as you know yourself, take what gibbo says with a pinch of salt, supposedly the 980ti weren't going to be dropping to £500 any time soon just last weekend....
I wouldn't bother with the 3xx series, joke of a release them! Better of picking up second hand 290x from the mm and just wait it out for a few months, if AMD **** up, then sell your screen and get 980ti + gsync screen.
Personally I think I will probably switch to nvidia in the future but I don't really fancy going from slow drivers (which I think will improve once AMD get their W10 drivers working perfectly) to unstable drivers (which nvidia probably will sort out sooner than later as well...), nothing more annoying than having stability issues.... plus, nvidia don't seem to support their older cards as well as AMD. I also don't really want to support things like gameworks....
As for myself, I am thinking of just going with the samsung 34" screen now, no free/g sync but I don't want to be tied into AMD and there is absolutely no way I am paying an extra £150+ just for a gsync version of a monitor and there is no way I am paying £700+ for acer or asus gsync monitors who unfortunately (or maybe fortunately?) seem to be the only ones interested in gsync
It is a ****ing nuisance nvidia not taking on adaptive sync.
Unfortunately, both sides are just a ****ing joke now.
I have no brand loyalty to either of these ****** GPU brands
, I have always chosen AMD because they offered better bang per buck though.
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OP has a freesync monitor already, selling it to get a g-sync monitor (of same specification) would be very expensive. Also the 980ti and Fury X on the 1440p screen would be so close in performance the user wouldn't notice it.
If the OP really is put off the Fury X id get an R9 290(X) and wait it out, if you can grab a Tri X (or pretty much any non stock cooler version) you would be gaming happy for a the wait for HBM2. The non ref 290(X) isnt a bad card at all for 1440p
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The problem is that instead of doing what might work out financially better for the OP,people are trying to get them to shift at a big financial loss to the OP since they are already are invested in the other brand.
He would loose quite a bit going from the F/S monitor to a close specification G sync. Money lost on the F/S monitor + Extra for the gsync
GCN 1.0 does not do freesync.
So none of the 7000 series do it. Even the R9 370 doesn't support freesync.
Also, Crossfire Freesync is MIA. Supposed to be out very shortly.
Just give up and go nVidia. Keep the Freesync screen.
I moved from a 1600p60 screen to a RoG Swift (1440p144). GSync is nice, but to be honest even without it on, tearing etc is much less of a factor with 144hz.
Even vsync is fine with it, as 144 divides much better than 60 does. With a 60hz screen, if you miss a refresh, your next one gives you an effective 30hz. With 144, if you are just under 60fps, you can still display 48fps with vsync.
So none of the 7000 series do it. Even the R9 370 doesn't support freesync.
Also, Crossfire Freesync is MIA. Supposed to be out very shortly.
Just give up and go nVidia. Keep the Freesync screen.
I moved from a 1600p60 screen to a RoG Swift (1440p144). GSync is nice, but to be honest even without it on, tearing etc is much less of a factor with 144hz.
Even vsync is fine with it, as 144 divides much better than 60 does. With a 60hz screen, if you miss a refresh, your next one gives you an effective 30hz. With 144, if you are just under 60fps, you can still display 48fps with vsync.
Nvidia adaptive sync is not g-sync or Freesync, it locks to v-sync when quick enough, and when it's not quick enough it just refreshes like v-sync was off. So you'll get less tearing even on OPs Freesync monitor.
The Fury X isn't that bad it's just over priced and not as good as AMD were suggesting it was. TBH Tony I'd think seriously about the FuryX, it will give performance in the same ballpark as kiwi and me (980Ti and SLI 970s), and you'll get the freesync.
The Nvidia route would be pretty pricey for you at the moment as it would be over £1000 for a 980Ti + GSYNC monitor.
The Nvidia route would be pretty pricey for you at the moment as it would be over £1000 for a 980Ti + GSYNC monitor.
Sorry, i misunderstood.
Yeah getting a 980Ti and keeping the F/S monitor is an option. And iv seen comments saying that at 144hz the gains of F/S and GSync are minimal at best.
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Waste of time fully switching.. A single 290x and Freesync has been a great experience for me. So much that I going single furyx once price drops and add another when needed.
If the performance isn't there for you a 390x and Freesync will be very nice. Just get rid of the over the top AA in games and at 1440p you can still hit some crazy fps.
Going 980ti plus Gsync vs 390x plus Freesync I very doubt you would notice the difference between them.
If the performance isn't there for you a 390x and Freesync will be very nice. Just get rid of the over the top AA in games and at 1440p you can still hit some crazy fps.
Going 980ti plus Gsync vs 390x plus Freesync I very doubt you would notice the difference between them.
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Or he could get a Fury for under £500 when released next month??
Heck,I would be have tempted to use get a cheap R9 290X and sell the HD7950 cards on. Should not cost much to change.
What's ironic is Freesync and G-Sync are meant to improve the gaming experience if you lack the GPU grunt.
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That is very true.. I used to want to match frame rate to refresh rate, reason for dual cards. Now with freesync that isn't a problem anymore. Any frame rate just feels very good.
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All these people seem to telling others to buy £500+ mega grunt GPUs for non-4K screens running G-SYNC/Freesync kind of defeats the objective in the first place.
I just think its become a tickbox feature for some and they are in their own reality distortion sphere.
There are Freesync screens hitting nearly £200 - at this point its going to be really useful for people running lower end cards.
I just hope we get some G-Sync monitors hitting close to that price level,or monitors which support both technologies.
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I somethings wonder if people telling others to switch camp bothering stop to think about the amount of cost it would involve (i.e. the loss on selling existing Freesync monitor and then spending the extra buying a Gsync monitor).
Yes 980Ti is may be overall win against the Fury X, but it's really not by much (also regardless of people making fun of the AIO cooler that the Fury X use, it is far better cooling solution than the reference or custom coolers used on the 980Ti, assuming people will have a 120mm fan mount for their case of course). So it make no sense at all to switch camp and lose couple hundred quids switching monitors.
Yes 980Ti is may be overall win against the Fury X, but it's really not by much (also regardless of people making fun of the AIO cooler that the Fury X use, it is far better cooling solution than the reference or custom coolers used on the 980Ti, assuming people will have a 120mm fan mount for their case of course). So it make no sense at all to switch camp and lose couple hundred quids switching monitors.
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I somethings wonder if people telling others to switch camp bothering stop to think about the amount of cost it would involve (i.e. the loss on selling existing Freesync monitor and then spending the extra buying a Gsync monitor).
Yes 980Ti is may be overall win against the Fury X, but it's really not by much. So it make no sense at all to switch camp and lose couple hundred quids switching monitors.
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Correct.. Even if the 980ti had 10fps more you wouldn't notice it, even without Freesync.. The benchmark results are so small a single driver can change that or afterburner allowing overclocking.
Give me a quiet, cool running Gpu over 10fps any day.
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Yea hater's gonna hate. At the moment I have the Corsair H105 with the HG10A1 bracket, and on stock clock it barely hit about 40C during gaming (and I am running the fans on silent profile).
The 980Ti with their "cool guy" reference cooler or custom cooler, they can have fun at 80C+ with fan noise as bonus
The AIO solution on the Fury X itself would worth at least £40-£50.
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Read my first posts ..... I did say getting a 2nd had 290X and waiting for the HBM2 cards is the way to go if OP isn't 100% happy with the fury X