Totally agree - BSODs can happen (but I often think more so because of other issues. Underlying OS corruption or badly coded 3rd party apps with hooks into system DLLs). But let’s be honest: the reaction isn’t the same depending on who it happens to. As we've just seen with Eddie99's post. Some vendors seem to get a kind of unspoken ‘benefit of the doubt,’ while others get dragged for weeks. Not naming names, but the contrast between AMD and NVIDIA in how people perceive driver issues is pretty hard to miss.
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The AMD Driver Thread
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Nothing wrong with my undervolt, it's a conservative -40 GPU, 2660MHz memory, and -15% power tuning. The memory was tested with memtest vulkan to make sure it wasn't error correcting. When I apply all 3 at the same time I get a black screen and have to force shutdown, but when I apply one at a time it's fine. I don't have any crashes in actual games which indicates a driver issue rather than a stability issue with the undervolt.I think you may have other issues. Personally, I don't recall ever seeing a BSOD updating AMD drivers. That's thinking back to ye olden Vega64 days, to 6700XT, to my current 6900XT. On Windows 10 and now Windows 11. If the undervolt is giving you a black screen then that would point to the undervolt not being stable. That's not an AMD driver issue - that could just be down to poor silicone. You are not going to get "more" issues with AMD vs Nvidia. All I can safely say is, go have a read of the Nvidia drivers thread, do some reading on XDA, and those sorts of sites, and make up your own mind whether you think Nvidia drivers seem stable.
Edit: I should also add that I tried testing it with a Windows 11 25H2 clean install and I get the same black screen issue which rules out OS corruption and conflicting software.
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How can you say nothing wrong with the overclock/undervolt if everytime you apply it you get a crash? Isn't that the basics of tuning?
If it was a problem with the stability of the undervolt then it would also black screen when applying one setting at a time and I'd have crashes in games. The fact that it only happens in Adrenalin when applying all 3 settings at the same time indicates a driver bug/glitch.
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I just tried resetting it to default and then applying the undervolt and I couldn't get it to black screen even on my normal undervolt values, so maybe it's a bug that only occurs the first time it's applied. I don't really care enough to DDU and reinstall, but I think it's unlikely my undervolt is unstable because I can push it much further, I just chose very conservative values to try and avoid stability issues.
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Recently I have been experiencing a number of crashes. Once or twice a day. The GPU fans would be going very fast and nothing responding. While idle and sometimes in game. I removed and re-seated the GPU hoping this would help as the issues started around the same time I built my new desk and moved everything. I was thinking something was loose slightly. This made no difference and it still crashed again yesterday. I then had a thought, this seemed to have started around the same time as I updated the motherboard drivers, using those from AMD's site. Yesterday, I removed all AMD drivers and installed the Asus AMD Chipset drivers and latest AMD GPU drivers. Since then, not had a crash yet. Fingers crossed, this has resolved it.
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yeah my phantom problem that we never got to the bottom of a couple of months ago has just reappeared
all works fine on the igpu outputs
but the gpu lights up and the fans spin it goes through the post process no hanging on a particular post section just when it goes to the login screen [as in when id expect it to ask my login details] it just stays black no output
having to use the 6500xt and the igpu on my 9950x3d [de-ja-vu or what? lol]
any ideas?
we did go through all the obvious things like gpu in a different pc and a friends known working install etc
with 2 known working psu which were both working fine when you put a working gpu on the psu if that makes sense
so kinda rules out the psu but not entirely
wasnt exactly the best time financially for it to go wrong either not that there ever is the perfect time for something to fail or anything but you know
all works fine on the igpu outputs
but the gpu lights up and the fans spin it goes through the post process no hanging on a particular post section just when it goes to the login screen [as in when id expect it to ask my login details] it just stays black no output
having to use the 6500xt and the igpu on my 9950x3d [de-ja-vu or what? lol]
any ideas?
we did go through all the obvious things like gpu in a different pc and a friends known working install etc
with 2 known working psu which were both working fine when you put a working gpu on the psu if that makes sense
so kinda rules out the psu but not entirely
wasnt exactly the best time financially for it to go wrong either not that there ever is the perfect time for something to fail or anything but you know
If you're undervolting or overclocking, all bets are off. There's no guarantee of stability when you're not using the GPU at the power/speeds intended. Sure you may get lucky, but you might get unlucky instead.
True, but I've literally never had a black screen in 10+ years of using MSI afterburner with Nvidia cards when applying a conservative undervolt.
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even running at stock i cant get to even the login screen on my 9070xt now im having to use the igpu [again] :-/ wish we knew why it happened last time as we would at least know how to sort it out i guess bit random really
and really unhelpful when you are planning on a few musical projects that need a working machine with multiple working screens coming up rather soon. il have to dig out the 6500xt and run a mix of that on one monitor and
the igpu on the other whilst we try and figure out why this is happening with the 9070xt, possibly a adrenaline issue?
and really unhelpful when you are planning on a few musical projects that need a working machine with multiple working screens coming up rather soon. il have to dig out the 6500xt and run a mix of that on one monitor and
the igpu on the other whilst we try and figure out why this is happening with the 9070xt, possibly a adrenaline issue?
Has to be some sort of file or program corruption otherwise it would be more widespread.
Apologises if already posted but though this was worth sharing.
Advanced Shader Delivery (ASD) is a new DirectX feature from Microsoft that pre‑compiles game shaders in the cloud and delivers them with the game, massively reducing first‑launch load times and eliminating shader‑related stutter.
Games such as Forza horizon 6 have implemented this technology and can cut loading screens to 2 seconds and reduce micro stutter consistency making the game incredibly smooth.
devblogs.microsoft.com
Advanced Shader Delivery (ASD) is a new DirectX feature from Microsoft that pre‑compiles game shaders in the cloud and delivers them with the game, massively reducing first‑launch load times and eliminating shader‑related stutter.
Games such as Forza horizon 6 have implemented this technology and can cut loading screens to 2 seconds and reduce micro stutter consistency making the game incredibly smooth.
Advanced Shader Delivery expands Public Preview with AMD - DirectX Developer Blog
Advanced Shader Delivery expands to Windows 11 PCs with AMD GPUs, cutting Forza Horizon 6 load times by 95% and reducing shader stutter via Xbox Insider.
devblogs.microsoft.com
Yeah but not on rdna 2 afaik and game specific not like a toggle amd likes to put in their drivers interface like fsr. Nice if u can use it but not everyones got the new cards. Is it a tech limit that it cant be on older cards or just a push to drive sales of new cards. If the latter then it stinks.
Should be interesting to check out FSR4.1 in games like TES Oblivion, with RDNA3 HW support soon. List of games here:
tekknological.com
But I’m more interested to know if / when AMD’s Fluid Motion Frames 3 will be available. And how well multi frame generation will perform. Although AFMF 2 performs well, it has issues with static scenes. The algorithms need improvement, so that they impact image quality less.
It looks like the main gap between AMD and Nvidia is going to be with ray tracing - but since you have to buy quite a high end Nvidia GPU to get good RT performance, I wonder how important this is likely to be to most gamers.
List of games supporting AMD FSR 4.1 / Redstone 2026. What’s the current roster?
AMD FidelityFX Super Resolution 4 (FSR 4) is AMD’s advanced upscaling and frame generation technology for games, designed to enhance performance without significantly compromising image quality. Le…
tekknological.com
But I’m more interested to know if / when AMD’s Fluid Motion Frames 3 will be available. And how well multi frame generation will perform. Although AFMF 2 performs well, it has issues with static scenes. The algorithms need improvement, so that they impact image quality less.
It looks like the main gap between AMD and Nvidia is going to be with ray tracing - but since you have to buy quite a high end Nvidia GPU to get good RT performance, I wonder how important this is likely to be to most gamers.
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I think AMD need to get a wriggle on with ray regen and radiance caching. If Nvidia's ray reconstruction 4.5 comes out first I won't be able to go in the PC games forum for cries of RTX ON!!!!
Are Microsoft releasing APIs for these? It might be worth AMD just supporting the DX version in that case.
ALSO - VULKAN!!!
Are Microsoft releasing APIs for these? It might be worth AMD just supporting the DX version in that case.
ALSO - VULKAN!!!
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That's not how it works at all, graphic cards are a very complex network of components and not just GPU itself. Either the whole thing works stable or it doesn't. In your case it doesn't, so obviously it's not stable. I'm not sure what logic you apply but the whole is always more than just the sum of its parts, irrelevant of the vendor and this applies to CPUs too.
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Lucky you, I can't even touch unfervolt with mine, it will flip the table in minutes. So I only do power limiting instead, as that's 100% stable. And then my 7950x3D also doesn't tolerate any undervolt, no matter how small and with what fancy software I find "stable" values - minutes and I'll have a crash after applying, even if tests all come up fine.
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Zero crashes in 1000+ hours of gaming, but a complete coincidence that it crashed the moment I hit apply because the undervolt was unstable? Yeah I doubt that.
If it's crashing within minutes then it's clearly not a conservative undervolt like mine and you likely lost the silicon lottery.