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The AMD Driver Thread

I'm having a really strange issues since the latest driver. Some games seem to be slowing up/speeding up every 1-2 seconds. It seems like Vysnc is switching and the framerate is trying to catch up, it usually happens in framerate dips.

I dunno how to describe it any better but it is a bit like stuttering but overly smooth which feels even more jarring :p Some games seems fine though even at sub 60fps.

Has anyone seen anything similar or know of anything I can try to fix it?
 
TonyTurbo78 said:
8.1 for me GM, crossfire and freesync working as it should.
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I did the obvious tests that for some reason I hadn't thought to do yesterday...

Played GW2 with the FPS limiter set to 30fps (below Freesync range) and noticed tearing (and god awful smoothness, how do console users cope?).
Obviously Freesync is ticked in CCC and VSync is off in-game.
If I set it to 60fps (within Freesync range) the tearing stops.

I then exited, went into CCC and unticked Freesync.
I then went back into GW2 and repeated the tests. Again 30fps had tearing and was generally unpleasant. Upped the fps limiter to 60fps and still noticed tearing. Taking off the limit allowed the FPS to hover around 100fps and I still noticed tearing.

So it looks like Freesync was working all along, it just isn't as impressive as people have lead me to believe (or GW2 is a really bad game to use as an example).

I repeated the above tests in Dota 2 and couldn't notice tearing with Freesync on or off with the fps limited to 30fps of 143fps.

Still interested to know if the issue free people are all Win8.
 
Little tip you don't need to close game down to enable or disable Freesync.. Just alt-tab out

Try something more demanding.. For me what I noticed right away was how smooth the frame rate changing was. On bf4 test range you have oil tanks you can blow up and depending how close you are you can make your frame rate drop very fast.. Without Freesync you get this like gudder effect, with freesync it stayed very smooth, so smooth I didn't even notice the frame rate drop....

It's this reason I don't care anymore about matching refresh rate of my monitor, also another reason I don't think I'll ever go back crossfire again..

I only bought into crossfire for pushing frame rate at monitor 120hz or 144hz.
 
shankly1985 said:
Little tip you don't need to close game down to enable or disable Freesync.. Just alt-tab out

Try something more demanding.. For me what I noticed right away was how smooth the frame rate changing was. On bf4 test range you have oil tanks you can blow up and depending how close you are you can make your frame rate drop very fast.. Without Freesync you get this like gudder effect, with freesync it stayed very smooth, so smooth I didn't even notice the frame rate drop....

It's this reason I don't care anymore about matching refresh rate of my monitor, also another reason I don't think I'll ever go back crossfire again..

I only bought into crossfire for pushing frame rate at monitor 120hz or 144hz.
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I wasn't sure about the Freesync/CCC thing so wanted to play it safe.

I'm not re-installing BF4 just to test Freesync once. I'll keep trying other games as I decide to play them. Freesync working in a game I don't play doesn't benefit me, so I'm not going to try games just to see Freesync.

My monitor has Freesync up to 144Hz so that's what I'm aiming for. If I wanted low framerates I'd have gone with the Asus IPS screen. My monitor does 144hz, Freesync does 144Hz, so for me it's 144fps or GTFO.
 
GoogalyMoogaly said:
I wasn't sure about the Freesync/CCC thing so wanted to play it safe.

I'm not re-installing BF4 just to test Freesync once. I'll keep trying other games as I decide to play them. Freesync working in a game I don't play doesn't benefit me, so I'm not going to try games just to see Freesync.

My monitor has Freesync up to 144Hz so that's what I'm aiming for. If I wanted low framerates I'd have gone with the Asus IPS screen. My monitor does 144hz, Freesync does 144Hz, so for me it's 144fps or GTFO.
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I didn't tell you to do anything! I was simply giving you my testing procedure.. The reason for BF4 was because its just something I have noticed over the years playing it.

Your testing might very well be different.

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What I find works for me, might not work for you! if you want 144fps thats perfectly fine! I am not in anyway saying 144fps is now pointless FAR FROM IT! What I am saying is now having frame rate smoothed out by Freesync I no longer need that 120 or 144fps.

:rolleyes:
 
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shankly1985 said:
I didn't tell you to do anything!
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shankly1985 said:
Try something more demanding..
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But seriously, no, I know you didn't. I was just saying that I prefer to worry about how it affects things I do/will play rather than things I wish I'd never bothered with (and won't be going back to).

With GW2 I can still tell the difference between 60fps and 144fps, with or without Freesync.

LoadsaMoney said:
FreeSync works brilliantly for me, in everything ive tried so far, just v-sync off in game, cap in AB's RTSS set to 140.
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I'm hoping my experience improves with other games as currently it's been a massive disappointment.
 
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Your a strange cookie googly. I guess there's no pleasing some lol.

It wouldn't surprise me you've not got it working at all, or your rig is just not up to scratch. I find your comment pretty confusing as freesync is nothing short of an incredible game changer.
 
TonyTurbo78 said:
Your a strange cookie googly. I guess there's no pleasing some lol.

It wouldn't surprise me you've not got it working at all, or your rig is just not up to scratch. I find your comment pretty confusing as freesync is nothing short of an incredible game changer.
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It's definitely possible that something still isn't right, but I've ticked the box, there's little more I can do. Anything more is gonna take AMD doing something. I bought the AMD 290s, I bought the Freesync monitor, I connected the DP cable that came with the monitor, I installed the latest drivers and I ticked the box. If you can tell me which part of that is wrong then I'll try again.

If it wasn't working I'd expect to see tearing with VSync off like I do when I untick the Freesync box (in GW2, not noticed any tearing in Dota 2 with or without Freesync). So ticking the Freesync box stops the tearing. How is this not working at all? What's causing the tearing to stop if it's not Freesync?

Can you record the effect with OBS/Xsplit/etc.?

shankly1985 said:
Thing I have learned over the years on this forum is GM is never happy lol
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My trouble is I keep buying into all the hype (Mantle, Freesync, FuryX). And there is so so so so much hype around anything AMD do.
Then when it doesn't live up to the hype I'm disappointed.
Then when I say it on the forums I get jumped on because I'm not praising something AMD have done like it's the 2nd coming.

I sometimes wonder if some people get a placebo effect where they want to believe and so convince themselves that something is better than it really is.
 
Defo not a Placebo effect! I said this before I didn't buy this monitor for Freesync.. Freesync for me was a added feature I just had to test I was expecting to be disappointed. Instead I was completely blown away!

Here is a video I did to try and showcase how smooth the frame rate stays while forcing different frame rate! Keep in mind you wont truly get the effect of freesync from youtube but what am trying to show is just how much I could easy play the game.

 
shankly1985 said:
Defo not a Placebo effect! I said this before I didn't buy this monitor for Freesync.. Freesync for me was a added feature I just had to test I was expecting to be disappointed. Instead I was completely blown away!

Here is a video I did to try and showcase how smooth the frame rate stays while forcing different frame rate! Keep in mind you wont truly get the effect of freesync from youtube but what am trying to show is just how much I could easy play the game.

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Now as I understand it, with our monitor Freesync doesn't actually work below 45fps or above 144fps? So nearly half of that video was without Freesync working? I still didn't see any tearing.
How different is the video with Freesync disabled at all fps ranges?

And yes, I realise the reason it looked juddery for me was that I was watching it at 30fps (unless Firefox supports 60fps YouTube now?)
 
GoogalyMoogaly said:
Now as I understand it, with our monitor Freesync doesn't actually work below 45fps or above 144fps? So nearly half of that video was without Freesync working? I still didn't see any tearing.
How different is the video with Freesync disabled at all fps ranges?
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37 and below and above 144fps..

They is quite some tearing below 40fps you just need to look for it! What the video I was trying to show is just how smooth the game still plays with dropping down to that 40fps window! and anything in between! 30 and 25 fps range it was still playable for me but not recommend.. The high increase of Motion blur is really off putting.
 
Am I seeing a massive amount of motion blur being applied when you switched from 25hz to 60hz, 3.46mins - 3.48 mins.

Does this blur also carry on at higher refresh rate settings
 
Davedree said:
Am I seeing a massive amount of motion blur being applied when you switched from 25hz to 60hz, 3.46mins - 3.48 mins.

Does this blur also carry on at higher refresh rate settings
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Refresh rate isn't changing outside the range.. Freesync below 37fps is 40hz.. Least it was when I done that video am not sure if AMD added that it pushes to max refresh rate when below the sync window.

60fps would have been 60hz though.

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Not sure what you seeing extra but you sure its not video compression from Youtube and Codec used.. If you look at the sky through out the video you see a lot of compression going on adds like a blur effect.
 
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These are the comparison to texture like a blur filter is activated at 60hz.

As for the freesync smoothness at low hz, I guess as it's locked to the low rate and it's not jumping from say 60-25fps, but always at 25fps it gives the impression of smoothness? (although you say freesync below 37hz actually locks to 40hz)
i don't have freesync and have never experienced it, Is it like having v-sync on but without the input lag feel.



 
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