The AMD Driver Thread

[drunkenmaster]

I agree. I do not like some of the things they do. But somehow I doubt that the reason AMD took a week to release Fallout 4 ready optimisations had anything to do with Nvidia. I do not blame them too much regarding the crossfire drivers being ready, as even nvidia did not have them so there is likely some other issue there, but would have been nice to have had these drivers that come out last week when I was playing

Anyway, won't have to deal with dual gpu for too long, I will be getting a single 14/16nm gpu as soon as they come out. Then likely after go for the full fat versions which will likely come out in a years time.

I am playing StarCraft II: Legacy of the Void at the moment, guess what? Crossfire does not work properly on it either even though there is a profile from what I can see. lol

Most games in the past couple of years Nvidia doesn't get good drivers out for over a week after launch.

You're viewing it in isolation being an AMD user as this isn't good enough, the other side is always better, largely because a lot of Nvidia users never shut up about AMD drivers and point blank refuse to acknowledge Nvidia issues.

Witcher 3 worked brilliantly(sans xfire) on drivers released months before the game launched where as Nvidia users had a half dozen unstable driver versions in the first week or two which caused crashing and instability in multiple games while attempting to deliver a stable optimised Witcher 3 driver.

It's swings and roundabouts, some games will get a great driver early, some won't. It's both worth mentioning that it's now(once I realised shadow distance is the performance killer) running great on older drivers on a 290 at 1440p and that once again it's running artifact/bug free and stable on the older drivers. Why hit a company for not releasing a new driver saying it is optimised for Fallout 4 when the old driver already worked great.

There was a time you had a game come out and it had flickering everywhere, or crashed every 20 mins or had horrible artifacts and needed a game specific driver to make it not a horrible experience. In those cases a week for a driver would be bad. But we're not giving AMD any credit at all for having good drivers available before a game, where old drivers run new games great in 98% of the time? Maybe these drivers took a week because the old drivers were already damn close to perfect and finding more optimisations was difficult?

 

[LoadsaMoney]

Im surprised they got a driver out so quick for it tbh, being a Nvidia game.

 

[muziqaz]

I am playing StarCraft II: Legacy of the Void at the moment, guess what? Crossfire does not work properly on it either even though there is a profile from what I can see. lol

Does that game even care about GPU? From what I gather Starcraft engine is completely CPU dependant. So I doubt that second GPU would add anything to the table either way.

 

[Avenged7Fold]

If you need xfire to run a playable fps in Starcraft, then you're doing it wrong xD

 

[TNA]

Most games in the past couple of years Nvidia doesn't get good drivers out for over a week after launch.

You're viewing it in isolation being an AMD user as this isn't good enough, the other side is always better, largely because a lot of Nvidia users never shut up about AMD drivers and point blank refuse to acknowledge Nvidia issues.

Witcher 3 worked brilliantly(sans xfire) on drivers released months before the game launched where as Nvidia users had a half dozen unstable driver versions in the first week or two which caused crashing and instability in multiple games while attempting to deliver a stable optimised Witcher 3 driver.

It's swings and roundabouts, some games will get a great driver early, some won't. It's both worth mentioning that it's now(once I realised shadow distance is the performance killer) running great on older drivers on a 290 at 1440p and that once again it's running artifact/bug free and stable on the older drivers. Why hit a company for not releasing a new driver saying it is optimised for Fallout 4 when the old driver already worked great.

There was a time you had a game come out and it had flickering everywhere, or crashed every 20 mins or had horrible artifacts and needed a game specific driver to make it not a horrible experience. In those cases a week for a driver would be bad. But we're not giving AMD any credit at all for having good drivers available before a game, where old drivers run new games great in 98% of the time? Maybe these drivers took a week because the old drivers were already damn close to perfect and finding more optimisations was difficult?

I can see what you are saying. That is one way of looking at it.

The way I look at it however is I want AMD to do better which will benefit us all. As a current and future customer I am voicing my opinion and providing feedback.

Truth is, unless nvidia come out with something that beats them on price for performance in the coming generation, then my next card is likely to be AMD again for the third time in a row, but this time for sure it will be a single gpu solution. In my experience AMD get single gpu right just as much as nvidia. There is nothing nvidia provide such as shadow play or gimpworks that appeals to me. When buying I just go by price for performance, this is why I recommend 980Ti over a Fury X. But at the same time will always recommend a 390 over a 970.

I am happy to support AMD (the underdog), they need it. But they need to support my needs to. Right now that is getting Deus Ex working day one properly with crossfire. It is an AMD game after all, no excuses

If you need xfire to run a playable fps in Starcraft, then you're doing it wrong xD

Well I play it maxed at 4K and to be fair it works fine with single gpu. But that is not the point is it?

 

[TNA]

Does that game even care about GPU? From what I gather Starcraft engine is completely CPU dependant. So I doubt that second GPU would add anything to the table either way.

It doesn't add anything, it actually makes it worse. Hence I have to go out of my way to disable it

 

[muziqaz]

I am happy to support AMD (the underdog), they need it. But they need to support my needs to. Right now that is getting Deus Ex working day one properly with crossfire. It is an AMD game after all, no excuses

I don't believe there will be any major issues with Deus Ex, since that game is DX12 and AMD. So AMD will make sure it supports all the bits and pieces which are beneficial to AMD, like dual GPU cards, etc. And we saw with Ashes of Singularity, that even cross vendor multi GPU support is working quite well.

 

[Matson]

Only just noticed these and iv been playing battlefront all morning lol. I really hope crossfire is working for battlefront with these drivers. Will test soon.

 

[Gregster]

Most games in the past couple of years Nvidia doesn't get good drivers out for over a week after launch.

You're viewing it in isolation being an AMD user as this isn't good enough, the other side is always better, largely because a lot of Nvidia users never shut up about AMD drivers and point blank refuse to acknowledge Nvidia issues.

Witcher 3 worked brilliantly(sans xfire) on drivers released months before the game launched where as Nvidia users had a half dozen unstable driver versions in the first week or two which caused crashing and instability in multiple games while attempting to deliver a stable optimised Witcher 3 driver.

It's swings and roundabouts, some games will get a great driver early, some won't. It's both worth mentioning that it's now(once I realised shadow distance is the performance killer) running great on older drivers on a 290 at 1440p and that once again it's running artifact/bug free and stable on the older drivers. Why hit a company for not releasing a new driver saying it is optimised for Fallout 4 when the old driver already worked great.

There was a time you had a game come out and it had flickering everywhere, or crashed every 20 mins or had horrible artifacts and needed a game specific driver to make it not a horrible experience. In those cases a week for a driver would be bad. But we're not giving AMD any credit at all for having good drivers available before a game, where old drivers run new games great in 98% of the time? Maybe these drivers took a week because the old drivers were already damn close to perfect and finding more optimisations was difficult?

Being an Nvidia pre-order user, most games over the last couple of years have run well from the off. The occasional game has had its issues (Tomb Raider springs to mind) but other than the occasional SLI profile being needed, I can't say I have had any issues to moan about. What I do find is people like yourself only look for negative posts and ignore those without issue and then use those as a statement of fact. You mention TW3 but that game ran really well from the off and with well over 80 hours in the first 2 weeks, I would be a good source for quoting.

 

[HEADRAT]

Something is borked

Lots of the Catalyst Options are missing on my 290X

 

[r7slayer]

Something is borked

Spoiler

Lots of the Catalyst Options are missing on my 290X

Load up gpuz and see if you have any probs?

My 290x shows up fine in same catalyst version. To me it looks like the actual adapter driver had a hiccup in installation. Try un-installing and reinstalling? But use Display Driver Uninstaller when uninstalling the AMD software/driver.

 

[HEADRAT]

Re-installed, now less borked

 

[Matson]

So ran Battlefront 3 times with crossfire enabled and each time i get the Battlefront has stopped working message lol. Ran single card and its fine. Good start.

Another user with the same issue.

"Well my game crashes on startup, or crawls single digit fps numbers on menus, and then crashes. Disabling CF and it works like a charm. (2x 7950)"

Exactly what mine does with crossfire enabled.

 

[drunkenmaster]

Being an Nvidia pre-order user, most games over the last couple of years have run well from the off. The occasional game has had its issues (Tomb Raider springs to mind) but other than the occasional SLI profile being needed, I can't say I have had any issues to moan about. What I do find is people like yourself only look for negative posts and ignore those without issue and then use those as a statement of fact. You mention TW3 but that game ran really well from the off and with well over 80 hours in the first 2 weeks, I would be a good source for quoting.

I see one person coming in to get defensive about Nvidia, the same guy as always. I use something as a statement of fact, so the thousands of Nvidia users having problems with Witcher 3 don't count because you didn't, because you didn't have problems it's now a fact Nvidia had no Witcher 3 problems at all, who is making claims about everyone based off one persons experience, it isn't me. It's strange, AMD had the old driver which worked fine, then made one post release driver available. Nvidia had a half dozen betas in a week... so I guess that first beta was fine and the rest were for the hell of it.

It was patently obvious from all around the web on dozens of forums that the Witcher 3 drivers had a HUGE problem for a very large proportion of users. It might be 10% or 50%, very hard to know, but it's usually say 1% and the drivers and the fact Nvidia released a half dozen pretty much proves it's a problem.Nvidia's own forums were full of users complaining about the Witcher 3 drivers.

You say you are a good source, I say you are one of the single most biased sources on the form and therefore not a good source at all. Anyone can go on Nvidia's forums and see posts about crashing due to the various Witcher 3 drivers, you can go on OCUK threads and see Nvidia users hating the drivers.

Just because you didn't have problems with Witcher 3 you're attempting to imply no one did and Nvidia had no problem. There are like 5-10 Nvidia die hards who hush up every problem as if it didn't exist, you didn't have a problem therefore no one did.


The same group attempted to cover up the Kepler performance missing by posting articles where some idiot wrote a review comparing launch drivers to the post Kepler missing performance fix drivers.... making the whole thing laughable. You can again go on Nvidia forums to see a dozen threads with hundreds of posts aboutit, there was missing Kepler performance for 6+ months for cards including £800-900 Titans that was ignored.

Witcher 3 was when what a Titan/780ti was being beaten by a 960 or something and trashed by a 290 that Nvidia finally admitted the problem AND released a fixed driver. Nvidia mentioned it, released a fixed driver.... but it literally never happened according to the usual nvidia suspects.

 

[KillBoY_UK]

I agree. I do not like some of the things they do. But somehow I doubt that the reason AMD took a week to release Fallout 4 ready optimisations had anything to do with Nvidia. I do not blame them too much regarding the crossfire drivers being ready, as even nvidia did not have them so there is likely some other issue there, but would have been nice to have had these drivers that come out last week when I was playing

Anyway, won't have to deal with dual gpu for too long, I will be getting a single 14/16nm gpu as soon as they come out. Then likely after go for the full fat versions which will likely come out in a years time.

I am playing StarCraft II: Legacy of the Void at the moment, guess what? Crossfire does not work properly on it either even though there is a profile from what I can see. lol

I don't think Starcraft 2 has has played nice with Multi GPU ever. Would be nice if you could DSR/VSR to 4k with vsycn without the FPS locking to 30fps in the in engine cutscenes.

I remember wow back in the day playing nice with multi GPU though, no idea if that's still the case.

 

[TNA]

Good points there DM. Funny thing is, even after all that, people still come out with "nvidia have better drivers". lol.

It is a shame as I would much prefer if AMD had at least 50% market share. It would be better for us all. They have a tall hill to climb and they must work harder than nvidia to do this.

I look forward to drivers this Friday

 

[Final8y]

@drunkenmaster +1

 

[coutinho]

Anyone know if its ok just installing new drivers on top of the old ones, or do you have to do all that uninstall safe mode shenanigans?

 

[muziqaz]

Being an Nvidia pre-order user, most games over the last couple of years have run well from the off. The occasional game has had its issues (Tomb Raider springs to mind) but other than the occasional SLI profile being needed, I can't say I have had any issues to moan about. What I do find is people like yourself only look for negative posts and ignore those without issue and then use those as a statement of fact. You mention TW3 but that game ran really well from the off and with well over 80 hours in the first 2 weeks, I would be a good source for quoting.

Greg, you of all people have no say in matter concerning game playability
Whenever masses of nvidia and amd owners are having issues with certain game, you come up and say that you have no issues with that game
So your extreme luck prohibits expressing yourself in the matter of game bugs

Though I must admit I am similar person on AMD side. I would need to think long and hard to remember any issues I had with games or experience altogether on AMD hardware

 

[humbug]

@drunkenmaster +1

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