The AMD Driver Thread

NightSt@lk3r · 30 Jan 2016 at 16:34

Matson said:
I just tested that at 3440x1440 res.

2xAF = 35 fps
16xAF = 31 fps

Only a 4fps difference so nothing out of the normal there really.

i get around 30 fps at 16x, 60+ at 2x.

fs123 · 30 Jan 2016 at 16:48

Matson said:
Plus the Division Beta is for this weekend only... What did amd users get for it....nothing. What did Nvidia users get..."Tom Clancy's The Division - profile added".

The Division is running better on AMD compared to the Nvidia cards though even without a profile. Heck a 280X is matching a gtx 970. Not sure if a specific profile will do much better.

Matson · 30 Jan 2016 at 17:05

NightSt@lk3r said:
i get around 30 fps at 16x, 60+ at 2x.

That seems a little strange. I tryed a few different areas in the game and still i only got about a 4fps drop between 2x and 16x. This is with everything maxed out apart from using FXAA instead of SSAA.

ltron · 30 Jan 2016 at 17:18

NightSt@lk3r said:
i get around 30 fps at 16x, 60+ at 2x.

It's strange that we both have this problem. Do you have texture filtering quality set to "High" and Surface Format Optimisation set to "Off" in the Radeon Settings Control Panel too? What resolution are you running?
I was pretty confident that this was a driver bug yet only one other person seems to have the problem.

Also, what GPU are you using? I'm using a Sapphire Tri-X R9 390X in UEFI bios mode according to GPU-z.

NightSt@lk3r · 30 Jan 2016 at 18:09

ltron said:
It's strange that we both have this problem. Do you have texture filtering quality set to "High" and Surface Format Optimisation set to "Off" in the Radeon Settings Control Panel too? What resolution are you running?
I was pretty confident that this was a driver bug yet only one other person seems to have the problem.

Also, what GPU are you using? I'm using a Sapphire Tri-X R9 390X in UEFI bios mode according to GPU-z.

CCC settings are all default, game is running at 1080p on a Gigabyte 7950.

ltron · 30 Jan 2016 at 18:22

NightSt@lk3r said:
CCC settings are all default, game is running at 1080p on a Gigabyte 7950.

I just tested GTA 5 and there was a 10 fps difference there when using 2x AF vs 16x. However, this was 91fps to 101 fps not 40 to 55-60fps as in ROTR.

NightSt@lk3r · 30 Jan 2016 at 18:37

The thing is even on 2x i don't see the blurry textures that you'd usually see in any other game, i think the setting is bugged.

BluD · 30 Jan 2016 at 20:12

nashathedog said:
But you're quite right I'm not playing it this weekend now because it's too juddery, The problem is it now means that I'll end up playing it in bits and pieces rather than in the way I choose to experience campaigns, like a story, like you would a movie all be it a long one.

Have you checked out your vmem usage? I saw a guy saying it was using 6g of ram, with my settings it doesnt use half that amount but maybe on higher settings it hits the cap easy and causes the judder, it certainly causes a judder as i found out in SoM and GTA when i passed the cap.

edit: Nvm i just read them benchmark results posted above, they said they got stutter on the tests on their fiji gpus, i was wondering why it was only Fury users saying it was juddery, and 290/390x users were reporting it nice and smooth.

flopper · 30 Jan 2016 at 22:22

BluD said:
Have you checked out your vmem usage? I saw a guy saying it was using 6g of ram, with my settings it doesnt use half that amount but maybe on higher settings it hits the cap easy and causes the judder, it certainly causes a judder as i found out in SoM and GTA when i passed the cap.

edit: Nvm i just read them benchmark results posted above, they said they got stutter on the tests on their fiji gpus, i was wondering why it was only Fury users saying it was juddery, and 290/390x users were reporting it nice and smooth.

different memory tech.
once they fix the swap of memory the fury will be fine.

Kaapstad · 30 Jan 2016 at 22:39

flopper said:
different memory tech.
once they fix the swap of memory the fury will be fine.

Once I get a fresh copy of windows back on my PC it will be back up and running.

Crimson drivers, MSI Afterburner, HBM memory between them have left my PC in a state where it does not want to boot into windows.

The only cure looks like doing a totally fresh install when I am off work again.

Anyone contemplating overclocking HBM please be careful as you may find yourself reinstalling windows. :eek:

HBM is a brand new tech and hopefully HBM2 will have the glitches ironed out.

fs123 · 31 Jan 2016 at 00:34

flopper said:
different memory tech.
once they fix the swap of memory the fury will be fine.

It's not just the Fiji cards.
I get severe pausing/stutter in Rise of the Tombraider when textures are set to very high on my 290X and VRAM hits 3.9GB. On High the VRAM usage drops to 3.3GB and everything seems fine. Looks like the game is trying to use more than 4GB on Very High settings.
Hopefully they can fix the issue with drivers since I remember Black Ops 3 did the same on release.

shankly1985 · 31 Jan 2016 at 00:38

Confirmed on the steam forum that very high needs 6gb vram.

r7slayer · 31 Jan 2016 at 12:25

Right guys anyone have a fix for this issue? Iv'e installed the latest Crimson driver after booting into safe mode using DDU to get rid of the old drivers then installed latest crimson drivers. Everything was working fine however ive since done a fresh install of windows 10, installed the crimson drivers again (fresh install no need for DDU)

Ive then installed MSI afterburner and tried to get it to load my overclock profiles which kept black screening me for some reason and had to restart. In the crimson drivers i enabled overdrive? To give the 50% power boost and then the overclocks wouldn't blackscreen me. So thought right back to normal again. I then enabled the option to start MSI on boot and apply overclocks and now i have the issue again blackscreens however it does it right as im loading to desktop right just before it. Ive un-installed MSI Afterburner and that didn't work so then i tried un-installing Crimson drivers and now i can load to desktop fine.

So im guessing Crimson doesn't like MSI Afterburner and overclocking? People having similar issues on the net from googling no fix though.

BluD · 31 Jan 2016 at 13:01

r7slayer said:
Right guys anyone have a fix for this issue? Iv'e installed the latest Crimson driver after booting into safe mode using DDU to get rid of the old drivers then installed latest crimson drivers. Everything was working fine however ive since done a fresh install of windows 10, installed the crimson drivers again (fresh install no need for DDU)

Ive then installed MSI afterburner and tried to get it to load my overclock profiles which kept black screening me for some reason and had to restart. In the crimson drivers i enabled overdrive? To give the 50% power boost and then the overclocks wouldn't blackscreen me. So thought right back to normal again. I then enabled the option to start MSI on boot and apply overclocks and now i have the issue again blackscreens however it does it right as im loading to desktop right just before it. Ive un-installed MSI Afterburner and that didn't work so then i tried un-installing Crimson drivers and now i can load to desktop fine.

So im guessing Crimson doesn't like MSI Afterburner and overclocking? People having similar issues on the net from googling no fix though.

What hardware are you using?, ive had loads of problems with blackscreens but i dunno if it relates to yours. I've managed to sort all my black screen problems using various methods but its taken from win10 release till now to finally get rid of them all.

trynoval · 31 Jan 2016 at 13:06

AMDMatt said:
Nice, that must be on 16.1.

Update on the next driver.

If you haven't saw..

It's such a pity..
AMD gave up such beauty to Huang, person who cripple and corrupts games.
Pure Hair name instead of TressFX. And no DirectX 12 Async Shaders.

AMD Matt, please bring my word to AMD - I'm very disappointed.
We are in one boat now.
I will not buy anything from faschist Huang, who breaking industrial standards, showing demos instead of implementing tech in games, etc. etc.

If AMD won't fix it's shait this year, fail with Polaris, like it did with Fury, I'll leave AAA gaming. Also no VR for me in this case.

P.S. I'm not AMD fanboy in any case, as engineer I'm standing for fair competition and evolution. Not shaity marketing and monopoly, where managers usurp achievements of professionals and corrupt them for own benefits.

r7slayer · 31 Jan 2016 at 13:15

BluD said:
What hardware are you using?, ive had loads of problems with blackscreens but i dunno if it relates to yours. I've managed to sort all my black screen problems using various methods but its taken from win10 release till now to finally get rid of them all.

Windows 10
i7 3770k
290x

Never ever had a black screen untill what i did in the previous post so i know it relates to that.

What ive done so far is reinstalled everything but Ive not enabled MSI to start on windows boot or allowed it to automatically apply overclocks. I have to manually do it everytime i boot by the looks of it. This solves the issue but it's not a great solution. There needs to be a fix in the driver/Crimson software.

Blackjack Davy · 31 Jan 2016 at 13:59

r7slayer said:
Ive then installed MSI afterburner and tried to get it to load my overclock profiles which kept black screening me for some reason and had to restart.

You can't just install a new driver especially Crimson and then expect to load up all your old profiles and expect them to still work. You'll have to go through the process all over again to find your maximum safe overclock and profile it. A delete/reinstall of Afterburner won't go amiss either to let it detect the new baseline of the card/drivers.

shankly1985 said:
Confirmed on the steam forum that very high needs 6gb vram.

I simply cannot understand why they decided to put a poky 4gb vram in it when the competition has 6gb and even the 390 has twice that, I can only assume the cost of the chips and/or implementing it is prohibitive. If not then they're fools.

fs123 · 31 Jan 2016 at 14:53

Blackjack Davy said:
I simply cannot understand why they decided to put a poky 4gb vram in it when the competition has 6gb and even the 390 has twice that, I can only assume the cost of the chips and/or implementing it is prohibitive. If not then they're fools.

If you are talking about Fury cards then it's because HBM is limited to 4 stacks of 1GB for the first revision. AMD had no choice for the Fiji architecture since they developed HBM to work with it. HBM2 will be 8GB or higher though.

MrMarvelous · 31 Jan 2016 at 14:53

Not a big fan of these Crimson drivers. Which is the last driver that isn't Crimson please?

r7slayer · 31 Jan 2016 at 15:22

Blackjack Davy said:
You can't just install a new driver especially Crimson and then expect to load up all your old profiles and expect them to still work. You'll have to go through the process all over again to find your maximum safe overclock and profile it. A delete/reinstall of Afterburner won't go amiss either to let it detect the new baseline of the card/drivers.

I said l installed MSI Aftrerburner and loaded my overclock profiles... You can do this, you just save your profiles from afterburners folder so if you ever need to reinstall they are still there. You don't have to find your overclocks again...
I don't think you understood what i was saying.
I did a fresh install of windows so just installing crimson is fine. Its just crimson, its sensitive to Afterburner applying over clocks by the looks of things.

I don't overclock with AMDs supplied software aka Overdrive. Its shocking.