The AMD Driver Thread

[nashathedog]

Still really looking forward to big Vega though. My prediction is it will beat the 1080Ti in DX12/Vulkan games and be a true 4K capable card. Just hope they do not go silly with pricing like Nvidia.

Crimson drivers have been doing great so far.

I'm looking forward to the option of an AMD upgrade too, having said that I'm delaying my monitor upgrade due to it locking me to a brand for the sync to work, I'm not expecting Vega to do much better than a 1080 if I'm honest but if it did perform like you hope you can be sure AMD will price it like Nvidia have been. It's common business sense, With Nvidia selling 1080 performance for £600 AMD will expect too as well.

 

[TNA]

I'm not expecting Vega to do much better than a 1080 if I'm honest but if it did perform like you hope you can be sure AMD will price it like Nvidia have been. It's common business sense, With Nvidia selling 1080 performance for £600 AMD will expect too as well.

Wow, that is some low expectations man. Not sure what makes you think that. In my opinion small Vega will be be on par or beating the 1080 in DX12 and Vulcan, but not on older DX and OpenGL.

I expect big Vega to beat the 1080 by 50% at least in DX12 and Vulcan games.

As for pricing, well the way I see it is AMD need to price it right at the moment to gain market share and mind share. If they can release a card that beats nvidia and price it well, they will create a lot of noise and change a lot of minds.

 

[Sh4rkie]

As for pricing, well the way I see it is AMD need to price it right at the moment to gain market share and mind share. If they can release a card that beats nvidia and price it well, they will create a lot of noise and change a lot of minds.

We say that every generation though and it never happens.

 

[Minstadave]

I can't see AMD bringing out a card that beats NV, all they've managed this gen is to bring out a card with 2014 performance, 2014 power usage and it's not even priced that keenly. Big Vega looks like it'll be hot and expensive.

 

[SimBy]

I can't see AMD bringing out a card that beats NV, all they've managed this gen is to bring out a card with 2014 performance, 2014 power usage and it's not even priced that keenly. Big Vega looks like it'll be hot and expensive.

Please define 2014 performance and 2014 power usage.

 

[TNA]

We say that every generation though and it never happens.

And every year they keep losing market share no?

They need another 4870 where it was nice performance that was priced well. That brought them lots of market share. But end of the day they will do what they think is best for them. But the way I see it is even if they get performance right, but price it crazy, it will likely put me off from buying it.

I actually do not mind if they have their very best card priced crazy, as long as the one below is 10-15% less performance and is priced very well

I can't see AMD bringing out a card that beats NV, all they've managed this gen is to bring out a card with 2014 performance, 2014 power usage and it's not even priced that keenly. Big Vega looks like it'll be hot and expensive.

That is not the way I see it. Polaris was not primarily designed for desktop in mind.

 

[Overlag]

since getting my 480 (and updating my drivers to suit) i keep getting mouse pointer curruption in windows 10. Most annoying. Anyone else had this?

 

[LoadsaMoney]

I can't see AMD bringing out a card that beats NV

Neither can i, Vega will just be another Fury X.

 

[Minstadave]

Please define 2014 performance and 2014 power usage.

It performs like a 970, uses as much power as a similar amount of power despite a die shrink and costs about the same.

It just seems totally underwhelming.

 

[SimBy]

It performs like a 970, uses as much power as a similar amount of power despite a die shrink and costs about the same.

It just seems totally underwhelming.

So 970 was $199 in 2014?

 

[Dave2150]

Neither can i, Vega will just be another Fury X.

Really is a shame that AMD put rubbish HBM on the FuryX. 4GB is a total joke, I was extremely temped by buy one but the 4GB always made me hesitant.

Thank god I didn't, as so many games need more than 4GB already.

If they'd skipped that product maybe they could have had Vega out right now.

 

[TNA]

Neither can i, Vega will just be another Fury X.

I will save this here and point it out to you in 6-9 months time

 

[Minstadave]

So 970 was $199 in 2014?

It was £260 at release for the reference and slightly more for a custom card - almost exactly the same price as a custom 480 2 years on.

 

[Minstadave]

I will save this here and point it out to you in 6-9 months time

What are you expecting Vega to be? AMDs rebirth? The 480 is so mediocre it's not looking great.

 

[HEADRAT]

Thank god I didn't, as so many games need more than 4GB already.

Is there a list somewhere of games that require > 4GB?

 

[Sh4rkie]

And every year they keep losing market share no?

They need another 4870 where it was nice performance that was priced well. That brought them lots of market share. But end of the day they will do what they think is best for them. But the way I see it is even if they get performance right, but price it crazy, it will likely put me off from buying it.

I actually do not mind if they have their very best card priced crazy, as long as the one below is 10-15% less performance and is priced very well

Right there with you . I have zero brand loyalty between the two camps and will always go with what suits me best. I've had plenty of Nvidia and AMD cards and never had problems with either, heck i started off with Cirrus Logic cards back in the day.

For me it doesn't have to be cutting edge or top of the line just fulfil my needs will hitting the vfm marker.

 

[Sh4rkie]

Is there a list somewhere of games that require > 4GB?

Doubtful simply because the settings of the game define the memory consumed. I've seen a few games that go beyond 4gb once every setting is set to the max. Simple solution is just to dial it back as it tanks my fps otherwise.

 

[ICDP]

The majority of games will work fine on current GPUs at 4K with 4GB as long as you don't plan to use multi GPU.

There is not one single GPU out there that can max settings at 4K and to get most games running acceptable requires lowering some settings to medium/high. Once you remove pointless effects such as DoF, motion blur, vignetting, high MSAA etc then your VRAM usage drops.

More is better of course but if you have a 4GB GPU do not upgrade just for extra VRAM unless you plan to use multi GPU.

 

[Lokken86]

Just picked up a cheap R9 380x and was wondering what's the latest stable driver version?

16.7.2 is the latest. They will give you some nice performance on Doom with that card.

 

[nashathedog]

Doubtful simply because the settings of the game define the memory consumed. I've seen a few games that go beyond 4gb once every setting is set to the max. Simple solution is just to dial it back as it tanks my fps otherwise.

We're also starting to see games that won't allow you to turn settings to max if you only have a 4gb card, even at 1080p.

The majority of games will work fine on current GPUs at 4K with 4GB as long as you don't plan to use multi GPU.

There is not one single GPU out there that can max settings at 4K and to get most games running acceptable requires lowering some settings to medium/high. Once you remove pointless effects such as DoF, motion blur, vignetting, high MSAA etc then your VRAM usage drops.

More is better of course but if you have a 4GB GPU do not upgrade just for extra VRAM unless you plan to use multi GPU.

It's not just about having the grunt anymore, Games are taking the ram usage over 4 gb's through the texture files as seen in titles like Rise of the Tomb Raider, Gears of War and Forza which all do it even at much lower resolutions..