The AMD Driver Thread

D1craig · 17 Feb 2020 at 21:11

5t3v0 said:
Ha. Explains that then. Clutching at straws here but does having a zero fan throttle the gpu speed? Which driver versions have you tried with this? Have any worked?

no it doesnt effect the clock speed having the fan at 0 rpm. it does go up in other games and hits a lot closer to my overclock numbers. say i have 1700 on my overclock in other games it would read 1640 or something similar. even still this game - monster hunter world is a lot more demanding than WoW and the 200 mhz difference still isnt near that.

EDIT - my previous post i meant mhz not fps so the difference would have been 200mhz. i have updated drivers maybe once every 2months and as of now im on the latest driver.

5t3v0 · 17 Feb 2020 at 22:34

D1craig said:
no it doesnt effect the clock speed having the fan at 0 rpm. it does go up in other games and hits a lot closer to my overclock numbers. say i have 1700 on my overclock in other games it would read 1640 or something similar. even still this game - monster hunter world is a lot more demanding than WoW and the 200 mhz difference still isnt near that.

EDIT - my previous post i meant mhz not fps so the difference would have been 200mhz. i have updated drivers maybe once every 2months and as of now im on the latest driver.

Does sound like a driver bug with that game then. Did an older driver work OK with it? Did you try setting your P states all to the max for the game?

gpuerrilla · 17 Feb 2020 at 23:42

Careful @5t3v0 . Wouldnt want to push one to the Geforce experience.

D1craig · 18 Feb 2020 at 12:51

5t3v0 said:
Does sound like a driver bug with that game then. Did an older driver work OK with it? Did you try setting your P states all to the max for the game?

The p states thing is what I wanted to try but with newer drivers you cant do that. It is how I got around erratic clocks previously.

Tbh I didnt play this game properly before I updated to the latest driver. Wow was playing fine with proper clockpseeds though.

D1craig · 18 Feb 2020 at 12:52

Th0nt said:
Careful @5t3v0 . Wouldnt want to push one to the Geforce experience.

I was looking at replacing my card for a nvidia but they are all like 200 or 300 quid more than the best AMD with a gpu block aswell. Looked at 2070s and 2080>.

And the AMD next step seems to have a lot of issues more serious than what I am experiencing driver wise.

5t3v0 · 18 Feb 2020 at 14:27

Th0nt said:
Careful @5t3v0 . Wouldnt want to push one to the Geforce experience.

Hell no!

D1craig said:
The p states thing is what I wanted to try but with newer drivers you cant do that. It is how I got around erratic clocks previously.

The min max option has gone but you just have to change all the p states you want to run at max to the same mhz and mV

gpuerrilla · 18 Feb 2020 at 14:34

D1craig said:
I was looking at replacing my card for a nvidia but they are all like 200 or 300 quid more than the best AMD with a gpu block aswell. Looked at 2070s and 2080>.

And the AMD next step seems to have a lot of issues more serious than what I am experiencing driver wise.

My vega is 15 months old now, will sidegrade it sometime over the next year to the newer offering as long as its cheaper than the nvidia counterpart. My new monitor is Freesync (but older standard) so not really looking nvidia even if they took a change of heart and discounted their lineup by 15%.

Vega is a bit fussy but nothing like the hyperbole dished out from people who think switching to green cures all issues. Likely a weak component in the system they have yet to flush out.

EastCoastHandle · 18 Feb 2020 at 15:05

D1craig said:
And the AMD next step seems to have a lot of issues more serious than what I am experiencing driver wise.

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/posts/33358686
The grass is not greener over there for the premium you would pay for turing/pascal. Havingsimilar issues reported to only come from AMD, lol.

Nvidia has a lot of tech websites under nda 2.0. And are not allowed to express issues with their drivers. There is a lot of polictics involved in the most recent driver news with AMD. A lot of it is old news.

Phixsator · 18 Feb 2020 at 15:24

D1craig said:
Here's a picture of the radeon overlay while ingame.

<a href="https://ibb.co/xhT0N48"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/7vm5q9N/20200217-193202.jpg" alt="20200217-193202" border="0"></a>

Is there any specific reason why your CPU util is 87%? outside of the game you are playing in that Screenshot? Unless i'm missing something that CPU don't look like it got much more to give in which case the GPU would be starved.

D1craig · 18 Feb 2020 at 16:05

its an i5 6600k. so not the best cpu and pretty old. but i dont think im really struggling cpu wise just gpu bugs. i have been wanting to go for a r5 6core for ages now but i just cant afford it.

EastCoastHandle · 18 Feb 2020 at 16:39

D1craig said:
its an i5 6600k. so not the best cpu and pretty old. but i dont think im really struggling cpu wise just gpu bugs. i have been wanting to go for a r5 6core for ages now but i just cant afford

I don't think it's the cpu alone but in combo of the Chipset your using.

welshrat · 19 Feb 2020 at 14:07

Been running the latest drivers for a good week or so on vega 56. Initially I had major issues with the 20 drivers but it turned out to be anti lag and I needed to set Radeon Chill globally to emulate the FRTC of the old drivers, set it to min 60 and max 80 since then all good across the board including BF5 which was a chop fest.

5t3v0 · 19 Feb 2020 at 14:52

Here's another pile of bias in the press: https://www.techspot.com/news/84067-evga-geforce-rtx-2060-ko-available-300-amazon.html

Recommending against the 5600 xt while the extent and severity of its predecessor's driver issues are still largely anecdotal is deliberate misdirection

JediFragger · 19 Feb 2020 at 17:57

5t3v0 said:
Here's another pile of bias in the press: https://www.techspot.com/news/84067-evga-geforce-rtx-2060-ko-available-300-amazon.html

Recommending against the 5600 xt while the extent and severity of its predecessor's driver issues are still largely anecdotal is deliberate misdirection

Tbf AMD only have themselves to blame for the entire mess in regards to advice like this.

EastCoastHandle · 19 Feb 2020 at 18:04

JediFragger said:
Tbf AMD only have themselves to blame for the entire mess in regards to advice like this.

I don't agree with that. This is all a simple marketing ploy to get people to consider 2060 (in this case).
AMD drivers bad...buy 2060 instead...we will never allow the media to discuss our driver issues.
It doesn't takea a master of critical thinking to see that. I'm sure nvidia would love for you to come experience the problems they have with their drivers. :cool:

EastCoastHandle · 19 Feb 2020 at 18:30

Meanwhile...

Looks llike disabling ULPS fixed the aggressive downclocking issue in older dx10/dx9 games
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/f5s1ls/rx5700xt_frequency_jumping_updown_my_fix/

Anyone tried this yet?

JediFragger · 19 Feb 2020 at 19:25

EastCoastHandle said:
I don't agree with that. This is all a simple marketing ploy to get people to consider 2060 (in this case).
AMD drivers bad...buy 2060 instead...we will never allow the media to discuss our driver issues.
It doesn't takea a master of critical thinking to see that. I'm sure nvidia would love for you to come experience the problems they have with their drivers.

Well something certainly isn't right, and if you can't see that you're you're sure nothing but a fanboy who's opinion can be discounted.

EastCoastHandle · 19 Feb 2020 at 19:45

JediFragger said:
Well something certainly isn't right, and if you can't see that you're you're sure nothing but a fanboy who's opinion can be discounted.

It's idiotic to call someone a AMD fanboy in a AMD Driver thread because they don't agree with you. You do realize everyone has an opinion don't you? Even if I think it's wrong.

JediFragger · 19 Feb 2020 at 19:46

EastCoastHandle said:
It's idiotic to call someone a fanboy because they don't agree with you.

Not really, you seem a bit blinkered. Anyhow, no more replies from me about this, have said what I need and will be recognised.

EastCoastHandle · 19 Feb 2020 at 19:49

JediFragger said:
Not really, you seem a bit blinkered. Anyhow, no more replies from me about this, have said what I need and will be recognised.

So you want me to agree with a problem I don't have? Your replies are a bit thick. LOL

JediFragger said:
Well something certainly isn't right.

You mean the same 'something' going on over at Nvidia forums?
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforc...e-44219-game-ready-driver-feedback-thread-re/
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforc...cing-geforce-hotfix-driver-44237-released-02/

What something you think we should be concentrating on here? I suppose that 'something' can be found everywhere you go and AMD is no exception. However, when you concentrate on just AMD and ignore Nvidia to favor someone giving advertisement for a 2060KO which is a slower card it comes of as disingenuous, egregious and dishonest. So yes, I find your "pound the table" approach to only focus on AMD a bit thick. So when I encapsulate the topic I do see "something certainly isn't right" about that.