*** The AMD RDNA 4 Rumour Mill ***

[Dangerman1337]

AMD really should've had not canned big RDNA4. A 128 CU, 512-bit RDNA 4 GPU would've beaten a RTX 5090 in vast majority of scenarios (raster, a lot of RT or even matched it in PT) or even matched a full fat 192 SM 5090 Ti.

AMD really should get a TSMC N3P 192 CU UDNA GPU working because that's likely to be at minimum competitive Vs RTX 6090 (which will be what? Blackwell on TSMC N3P?). Especially if FSR5 comes along with an expanded suite like ray-reconstruction etc.

 

[humbug]

What will happen (like always) is people with no intention of buying Amd will be annoyed that Amd don't sell cards cheap enough to force nvidia cards (which they do intend on buying) to come down in price.

It seems to be seen as AMDs duty to sell cheap cards. Nvidia are just given freedom to do wtf they want with pricing but Amd better be a quarter of the price.

Pretty much....

 

[Besty]

AMD really should've had not canned big RDNA4. A 128 CU, 512-bit RDNA 4 GPU would've beaten a RTX 5090 in vast majority of scenarios (raster, a lot of RT or even matched it in PT) or even matched a full fat 192 SM 5090 Ti.

AMD really should get a TSMC N3P 192 CU UDNA GPU working because that's likely to be at minimum competitive Vs RTX 6090 (which will be what? Blackwell on TSMC N3P?). Especially if FSR5 comes along with an expanded suite like ray-reconstruction etc.

The AMD product owner probably did what some of would do and that is to take one look at the 2025 PC game release calendar and summarise that there is no point.

The 9070 series will be good enough to power Deadlock, Warhammer 3 and Cyberpunk.

2026 on the other hand - Crysis 4, GTA6, Battlefield, Squadron 42 (sic) and the really big one - The Elder Scrolls VI. The Division 3, The Witcher 4 are coming but wont be here until 2028/2029.

2025 is the year of the Nintendo Switch 2, Meta VR Golf and steam deck portable gaming. On the latter AMD and RDNA4 is far better positioned than Nvidia and might yet surprise with a TV focused, RDNA4.0 Steam box.

 

[GoogalyMoogaly]

Not what they said at all. While it is an overgeneralisation, there are a significant number of people who never consider AMD, even when they are competitive. When AMD arguably had a better cheaper product their market share still shrank. The excuses tends to change but the premise is the same.

AMD have bad drivers
AMD don’t have PhysX
AMD don’t have 3D
AMD don’t have RT
AMD don't have Gsynch
AMD don’t have DLSS

No, I’m not defending AMD, they can be just as bad as Nvidia and some on that list at least have some merit.

I don't see what's wrong with people wanting Nvidia cards to be cheaper.
The best way to do that is to have competition. So it makes sense that people want AMD to put out good products even if they don't intend to buy them. Same goes for Intel.

I also think it's fine if people have a brand preference and not everyone just buys what seems to be the best price/performance card.

I buy cards from Nvidia and AMD but I tend to favour Nvidia at the minute because I've had more issues with AMD cards of late. But that doesn't mean I won't buy AMD cards, I just buy what interests me (a tactic which unfortunately led me to getting crossfire FuryXs!)

 

[Bidley]

I don't see what's wrong with people wanting Nvidia cards to be cheaper.
The best way to do that is to have competition. So it makes sense that people want AMD to put out good products even if they don't intend to buy them. Same goes for Intel.

I also think it's fine if people have a brand preference and not everyone just buys what seems to be the best price/performance card.

I buy cards from Nvidia and AMD but I tend to favour Nvidia at the minute because I've had more issues with AMD cards of late. But that doesn't mean I won't buy AMD cards, I just buy what interests me (a tactic which unfortunately led me to getting crossfire FuryXs!)

AMD can sell cards for £200 at 200% 5090 performance, but it's not competition or putting any pressure on Nvidia if nobody buys them, which is what you're endorsing.

 

[StarShock]

I think the issue is just that there's so much negative sentiment aimed at amd every time nvidia do something shady. Not everyone, really just a handful of people, but it does feel like it's every time and very loud. And I get it, with better competition nvidia would be forced to behave better.

But its so tiresome seeing people seem to blame amd for something nvidia are doing. And often rewarding nvidia with a purchase at the same time.

 

[GoogalyMoogaly]

AMD can sell cards for £200 at 200% 5090 performance, but it's not competition or putting any pressure on Nvidia if nobody buys them, which is what you're endorsing.

It would be interesting to see how many cards they'd sell if they were double the 5090 performance for £200. Well, if they did that this year, if the do it in 2045, not so much.
All I'm saying is that it's understandable that people have a preference while also wanting competition.

I think the issue is just that there's so much negative sentiment aimed at amd every time nvidia do something shady. Not everyone, really just a handful of people, but it does feel like it's every time and very loud. And I get it, with better competition nvidia would be forced to behave better.

But its so tiresome seeing people seem to blame amd for something nvidia are doing. And often rewarding nvidia with a purchase at the same time.

Yeah I get that.
I think a lot of people get frustrated at the situation caused by Nvidia but don't see AMD as a viable alternative, which is arguably AMDs fault. And that's why they still buy Nvidia.

 

[gpuerrilla]

I think a lot of people get frustrated at the situation caused by Nvidia but don't see AMD as a viable alternative, which is arguably AMDs fault. And that's why they still buy Nvidia.

As mentioned on here and the 7900XT/XTX thread, lots of people have been buying them now as they seen what nvidia offered this new generation and as yourself stated they suddenly noticed AMD as a viable alternative. If there is brand loyalty or habit there has to be some ownership on the human in the first place to be open to change. Works with all industries/markets/products.

 

[ben90]

Not what they said at all. While it is an overgeneralisation, there are a significant number of people who never consider AMD, even when they are competitive. When AMD arguably had a better cheaper product their market share still shrank. The excuses tends to change but the premise is the same.

AMD have bad drivers
AMD don’t have PhysX
AMD don’t have 3D
AMD don’t have RT
AMD don't have Gsynch
AMD don’t have DLSS

No, I’m not defending AMD, they can be just as bad as Nvidia and some on that list at least have some merit.

You forgot to add 'AMD can't pull off a good launch to save their life'

 

[GoogalyMoogaly]

As mentioned on here and the 7900XT/XTX thread, lots of people have been buying them now as they seen what nvidia offered this new generation and as yourself stated they suddenly noticed AMD as a viable alternative. If there is brand loyalty or habit there has to be some ownership on the human in the first place to be open to change. Works with all industries/markets/products.

Yes people need to be open to it, but they have to see it as a viable alternative. If they see their options as the market leader or an unknown brand I think it's understandable they go with the market leader while complaining there's no viable alternative. That's on the marketing department to fix.

Also when you say"lots of people buying them", lots in what context? Are you thinking AMD have jumped up to 20% or 30% market share now?
I think if AMD could get to 30 or 40% market share they'd be seen as a viable alternative by more people.
Maybe that's an opportunity AMD have if they play their 9070 cards right.

 

[Sumanji]

You're surprised people want competition to bring prices down?
Is it common in other walks of life for people to want monopolies to exist so that prices will rise?

Spoiler: Monopolies can only be broken when people actually buy the competing products

...but don't see AMD as a viable alternative, which is arguably AMDs fault. And that's why they still buy Nvidia.

How can a customer's short sightedness be a company's fault? The reviews are readily available for all to see.

You forgot to add 'AMD can't pull off a good launch to save their life'

This one is true, no?