maybe initially but people will just buy Nvidia once availability and prices settle down. AMD needs a too good to refuse price.
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Well they could price it at $400 which is what previously gen 80 performance traditionally cost until the past couple of years.
So what? if people want to buy Nvidia they will buy Nvidia anyway.
That’s the problem and it’s that attitude that’s got them to 10% marketshare. To convince hardcore Nvidia buyers they need a price that’s simply to good refuse.
I’m not even in the market for a card this gen yet I would buy a 9070XT for $500 assuming it matches a 4080 just as a show of support for AMD.
$400 isn't what it was a few years ago since they printed so many more (25% of all the dollars that exist now were printed since 2019) - so $500 is the new 400
But really this lowest price is everything narrative seems rather simplistic - see Skoda vs VW vs Audi - people have different tradeoffs ...
Hardcore Nvidia buyers, what you mean the sort of people who will buy Nvidia branded turds?
That would appear to be around 90% of the market, even with all the problems Nvidia cards are having this launch people still buy them so to break through that mindshare AMD needs to come out with a mic drop price.
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They are not capable. The fact Nvidia is doing it's best to destroy it's reputation with the gaming market this gen, will just have them more confident in their "Nvidia price minus 50" business motto.
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Could be true. Would they be wrong though? AMD's market share indicates that their own pricing has been wrong.Why do I get the impression there's a lot of posters here that in-between posts are rocking back and forth on their chairs gibbering incoherently about how only the price they type is the one that will do...
It also indicated how many people will buy nvidia, just because it's nvidia. So lets also take that into consideration. The only reason people seem to be having second thoughts now is the absolute BALLS nvidia made of the 50 series launch with dodgy cards, zero stock, massive price hikes and the dodgy connector.
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I don't see it that way. Have stronger product launches and people will think twice.
If it's "only" a small amount more for the card with better feature support, even I'd probably go for that option. And I'm no Nvidia fan at all.
It's just a shame Intel are too busy eating crayons, to have remembered to make a slightly higher end card this generation.
If it's "only" a small amount more for the card with better feature support, even I'd probably go for that option. And I'm no Nvidia fan at all.
It's just a shame Intel are too busy eating crayons, to have remembered to make a slightly higher end card this generation.
A matter of opinion, some people seem to want amd to be competitive so they can buy the nvidia equivalent at a lower price. Which doesn't do much for swiping back some market share. Fridays is gonna be very interesting to see the reactions on here, good or bad.
The release is next week, less than 10 days away. Reckon there will be 5070/5080 shipments before then?
Did you mean AMDTM FineWine?
Hey don't diss AI gen, it's just as good as top quality real pictures from the best artists. A leather jacket man said so so it must be true.Yeah its ai gen, wouldnt ever get it right and had to get it to try loads of times. This was the best of the bunch of attempts.
In fact your AI pic is worth more than a regular one. You'll be able to sell it on ebay for big bucks...
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I don't really want to buy another 16GB card, but if AMD put out something decent and initially price it at their "3 month later price drop" one, it would be extremely tempting.
That's what you and a few others in here always think. Sure there are some who will always buy Nvidia no matter what. But that ain't 90% ffs. Yet here we are.
AMD have done a poor job to get marketshare down this much imo. Pricing matters. If they come in at a good price like $550 as suggested, watch how they get huge sales.
But what will they likely do? Go $650-700 and it will sell like the 7000 series.
Have you ever been on facebook tech pages, or looked through some comment sections on YouTube videos? The amount of morons out there that still think amd drivers are stuck in 1999 is scary. There's a lot of disinformation out there about amd gpus and seems a lot of people are dumb enough to swallow it without checking it out for themselves.
A lot of them will readily admit they have not, and wont ever own one because of the drivers and the whole situation with ATI at the time and bad drivers started around the time of the rage fury maxx dual chip gpu and that was launched in 1999, yet here we are in 2025 and that still seems to be a reason why some people will just buy NVidia regardless.
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The 90% market share is far more to do with lack of AMD OEM prebuilds and laptops. The number of actual enthusiasts level discrete GPUs make up a much smaller percentage.
As usual the PC master race think it’s all about features and drivers FFS. It’s about cheap “gamer” laptops and OEM PCs. The vast majority of PC gamers have never even looked inside their PC, let alone built one from scratch.
For reference about 70% of the PC market is OEMs and laptops and about 30% “prebuilt”. The majority of Nvidia’s market share comes from the 70% OEM space, with the rest in standard prebuilt “gaming” PCs. The percentage that is “enthusiasts” building their own PCs, is tiny by comparison.
If AMD get more into OEMs like they have with Dell, their dGPU market share will significantly increase.
As usual the PC master race think it’s all about features and drivers FFS. It’s about cheap “gamer” laptops and OEM PCs. The vast majority of PC gamers have never even looked inside their PC, let alone built one from scratch.
For reference about 70% of the PC market is OEMs and laptops and about 30% “prebuilt”. The majority of Nvidia’s market share comes from the 70% OEM space, with the rest in standard prebuilt “gaming” PCs. The percentage that is “enthusiasts” building their own PCs, is tiny by comparison.
If AMD get more into OEMs like they have with Dell, their dGPU market share will significantly increase.
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Forgot poor drivers..
At last some one who talks sense.