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No it does make sense.

If you select 6700xt as the base card then the 7800xt is 48% better.

Likewise the 7800xt as base card the 9070XT (reference spec) is 36% better.

They tested a Nitro 9070XT in their review which undoubtedly has higher performance coming out at 44.5% better than the 7800xt.

It lines up.

I was looking at the site back when you started % and they did update it to 36%. The chief improvement has been upscaling and RT which going by this forums enthusiasts the past few years is surely what everyone wanted right?
 
So I'm continually hearing buy a Sapphire Nitro+ if I want a flagship card then.

I thought ASRock Taichi was a safe bet too, but I'm not hearing good things about the connectors....
it's only an issue on nvidia as they only have 1 shunt resistor so if the cable you plug in isn't balanced it can overload a single cable most have 2-3 shunt resistors and are not hitting 600w loads so theres no issue
 
No it does make sense.

If you select 6700xt as the base card then the 7800xt is 48% better.

Likewise the 7800xt as base card the 9070XT (reference spec) is 36% better.

They tested a Nitro 9070XT in their review which undoubtedly has higher performance coming out at 44.5% better than the 7800xt.

It lines up.

The 6700XT was 33% better than an RX5700XT IIRC.

So minimum price for minimum price, the 5070ti is £160 more.

£160 is a decent chunk of change between them, and you are only get ~15-20% higher RT performance (not sure where 25% came from?) for that and DLSS4.

I think thats quite a bit extra to pay for those two things when you are already spending nearly £600, but it may be worth that for some.

£160 will also bump you up to a Ryzen 7 7800X3D or Ryzen 7 9800X3D from a Ryzen 7 7700X.

Reviewers only use the best CPUs,but an RTX5070TI with a Ryzen 7 7700X might not be as consistent as a RX9070XT with an Ryzen 7 7800X3D or Ryzen 7 9800X3D.
 
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Interesting find by Jayz2cents in this video. The 5070Ti has significantly more frametime spikes than the 9070/XT cards in RT titles. The 9070 cards feel smoother even if the frame rate may be lower.

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closed the gap on RT? sure, but it was a low bar to begin with, some of those RT benches are terrible tbf, i favour neither brand, but if your saying you wouldn't pay 50quid more for better raster, RT and far better efficiency, then i guess we know your colour :p;)

At the time of writing Green, as of tomorrow Red. RT is **** on this tier of cards, it was **** before, will be **** after. Even the 5090 struggles in some games.

Also, no I wouldn't pay for better RT, I mostly play Multiplayer games or Simulation/City builders, neither of which are good with RT or even use them, a top down game it doesn't matter.

Why would I pay for something I don't need to use? Sure it's nice to have but it's not a seller for me. I haven't bought a game in over 2 years outside of forgetting to pause my Humble Bundle now and again.
 
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Looks like a decent uplift for my 3080 in some games and not a massive uplift in others.

I'm debating wither it's worth getting, I'm leaning towards yes if I can get one of the 569 cards
 
The reviews are so strange as I seen one that has the 9070.slightly faster than a 4070ti Super,but others 4070 Super/5070
 
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Looks like a decent uplift for my 3080 in some games and not a massive uplift in others.

I'm debating wither it's worth getting, I'm leaning towards yes if I can get one of the 569 cards
I can already see myself trying to get one of the few MSRP Pulse models and failing, and I'm almost beginning to resent it already wondering how many frickin bots and scalpers beat me to it
 

Looking to possibly buy from OC tomorrow at launch, but this link says only UK while the product pages say Ireland and UK, don't want to waste my time here if it won't go through checkout. @Gibbo any clarity?
 
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Scalpers are going to have a bad, bad time if they try and scalp this card.
If the supply doesn't run out, and/or nvidia get their stock situation sorted out, then yes. However, I'm not convinced on either front, and neither am I convinced that scalpers won't try regardless.
 

Looking to possibly buy from OC tomorrow at launch, but this link says only UK while the product pages say Ireland and UK, don't want to waste my time here if it won't go through checkout. @Gibbo any clarity?

Includes Ireland I believe or certainly Northern Ireland.
 
If the supply doesn't run out, and/or nvidia get their stock situation sorted out, then yes. However, I'm not convinced on either front, and neither am I convinced that scalpers won't try regardless.

Na, the demand just isn't there for people to pay a few hundred over the odds for this card compared with the stock available, so margins for scalpers will be tiny.

Completely not worth the hassle.
 
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