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Pretty much decided I will try and grab a Reaper XT. From everything I’ve seen it appears to be a 50% increase in Rast compared to my 6800XT and multiple fold increase in RT.

I have a 4k monitor and whilst I may need to run a few games at 1440p there should be a lot less than currently.

May be difficult as I’m in Cambodia right now so I wouldn’t be surprised if Cloudflare thinks me a bot.
 
dante6491 said:
Pretty much decided I will try and grab a Reaper XT. From everything I’ve seen it appears to be a 50% increase in Rast compared to my 6800XT and multiple fold increase in RT.

I have a 4k monitor and whilst I may need to run a few games at 1440p there should be a lot less than currently.

May be difficult as I’m in Cambodia right now so I wouldn’t be surprised if Cloudflare thinks me a bot.
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I’m between the Reaper or the Pulse!
 
GhostDog1981 said:
Vram temps are ok on the steel legend and pulse I’ve heard. The reaper has vram getting too hot issues.
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The Reaper VRAM runs within specs. You are spreading FUD with these “too hot” claims because that would imply it is running hotter than the VRAM specs.
 
ICDP said:
The Reaper VRAM runs within specs. You are spreading FUD with these “too hot” claims because that would imply it is running hotter than the VRAM specs.
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Sorry I had read that or heard that somewhere. Apologies if not true.

EDIT. I remember now it was Paul’s review.

Vram hits 92C.


 
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Im not trying to be dismissive because for your preference 92c may indeed be too hot. But 92c on VRAM is within specs (105c) and the average is usually around 87c. In fact the guy in the video you linked, used the phrase “memory gets a little warm” and that’s a more accurate description.

My 3080 was hitting 95c and had no issues. 3090s were the same.

Yes, you want it to run cooler but my point is claiming “too hot” has implications that the card is running outside specifications for the VRAM. It isn’t.

The 9070 XT Reaper is the closest thing to an MBA design with plenty adequate cooling and noise levels. I am posting this so anyone looking for a smaller form factor GPU are not put off by misinformation.
 
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And? 92c on VRAM is within specs. In fact the guy in the video “proof” you linked, used the phrase “memory gets a little warm”. How do you go from “a little warm” to “too hot”?

My 3080 was hitting 95c and had no issues. 3090s were the same.

Yes, you want it to run cooler but my point is claiming “too hot” has implications that the card is running outside specifications for the VRAM. It isn’t.

The 9070 XT Reaper is the closest thing to an MBA design with plenty adequate cooling and noise levels. I am posting this so anyone looking for a smaller form factor GPU are not put off by misinformation.
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Ok mate. Please I did not intend to misinform. In my book 92C is a bit too hot and I would advise my friends etc not to get this model. The steel legend hits 81c and the pulse similar which are better imo.
 
GhostDog1981 said:
Ok mate. Please I did not intend to misinform. In my book 92C is a bit too hot and I would advise my friends etc not to get this model. The steel legend hits 81c and the pulse similar which are better imo.
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No problem, yes those 2.5 and 3 slot designs are going to be better for cooling and if you can get one at MSRP then great. But the Reaper 9070 XT is still a good 2 slot design with more than adequate cooling and noise levels. Don’t be put off that it’s a few Celsius higher on VRAM.
 
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Jono8 said:
Yeh, some games look very odd (IE suddenly the 9070xt is only 7900gre perf or something). Possible that these need driver improvements.
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I keep trying to tell people that AMD driver support has been almost absent for the past year with many games underperforming due to lack of driver optimisations (in my case KCD 2, PoE 2) but they think I'm just hating even though I'm on AMD. A lot of people will learn this lesson the hard way, a lot of the performance on PC DEPENDS on driver support, it's not just on devs. I said the same thing about the B580 when people were going ga-ga over it pointing out the same, but again - people would rather think it's hate rather than acknowledge genuine problems.
 
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yeah 90C is well within specs. My current nitro 7900GRE sometimes hovers around 89/90, I can lower it by changing the fan curve but see little point as its super quiet and within spec.
 
welshrat said:
yeah 90C is well within specs. My current nitro 7900GRE sometimes hovers around 89/90, I can lower it by changing the fan curve but see little point as its super quiet and within spec.
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What's Tjunction max on these cards, 110c? 90c would have been just fine on a 7900xtx.
 
GhostDog1981 said:
Ok mate. Please I did not intend to misinform. In my book 92C is a bit too hot and I would advise my friends etc not to get this model. The steel legend hits 81c and the pulse similar which are better imo.
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It depends, all electronics will degrade when exposed to heat but you're talking about maybe a few months from multiple years of use.

Buildzoid did a good, all be it in his usual unedited stream of thoughts manner, video on VRM temps a few years ago. Basically 100-110°C isn't a worry unless you're running them like that 24/7, +120°C would be what I'd consider to be hot or something to be a little concerned about.
 
Poneros said:
I keep trying to tell people that AMD driver support has been almost absent for the past year with many games underperforming due to lack of driver optimisations (in my case KCD 2, PoE 2) but they think I'm just hating even though I'm on AMD. A lot of people will learn this lesson the hard way, a lot of the performance on PC DEPENDS on driver support, it's not just on devs. I said the same thing about the B580 when people were going ga-ga over it pointing out the same, but again - people would rather think it's hate rather than acknowledge genuine problems.
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You just hate AMD mate and everything you say is designed to make them look bad.

:p

On a serious note, what was your thought's on the 9070XT? The main thing that impressed me is FSR4 if I am being honest. They did a very nice leap there. The rest of it was not as good as AMD made sound like and I honestly don't think £600 will be the normal price point based on what I have heard.

Overall I am much happier with what they have done here compared to 7000 series. But mainly because nvidia had a crap launch.

They need to really push and get FSR4 in many games now. If they can do this they will be a real option for me next gen. For now I am staying put on my 4070Ti as I have no need to upgrade right now as my huge backlog of games all run very well for my needs.
 
Poneros said:
I keep trying to tell people that AMD driver support has been almost absent for the past year with many games underperforming due to lack of driver optimisations (in my case KCD 2, PoE 2) but they think I'm just hating even though I'm on AMD. A lot of people will learn this lesson the hard way, a lot of the performance on PC DEPENDS on driver support, it's not just on devs. I said the same thing about the B580 when people were going ga-ga over it pointing out the same, but again - people would rather think it's hate rather than acknowledge genuine problems.
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lol, stop trying to convince yourself you are some paragon of truth.

AMD driver support has been perfectly fine and overall far more stable than Nvidia this past year. Being a bit slow on the latest game is worth that stability. In fact I stopped upgrading my 4080 drivers months ago for this very reason. The latest ones introduced some stutter in some games and I had to “upgrade” to the pre Christmas drivers.
 
Murphy said:
It depends, all electronics will degrade when exposed to heat but you're talking about maybe a few months from multiple years of use.

Buildzoid did a good, all be it in his usual unedited stream of thoughts manner, video on VRM temps a few years ago. Basically 100-110°C isn't a worry unless you're running them like that 24/7, +120°C would be what I'd consider to be hot or something to be a little concerned about.
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Maybe we need change our thinking about what's normal but i don't like seeing 80c on my VRam or GPU Hotspot..... i don't but if i did i get a bit like this.

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