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Yeah I remember initial responses were a bit meh, but that changed quite quickly.

It changed when they actually launched it in the west with a higher power profile, that was all except Hardware Unboxed who tried to pretend the China one they pulled out of a prebuild was the same as the west version retail one so they could call it crap, even after AMD told them they are not the same GPU and all other reviewers with different findings were positive about it HUB still insisted they are the same. what's worse is AMD sent them a western retail version which they ignored.
 
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It changed when they actually launched it in the west with a higher power profile, that was all except Hardware Unboxed who tried to pretend the China one they pulled out of a prebuild was the same as the west version retail one so they could call it crap, even after AMD told them they are not the same GPU and all other reviewers with different findings were positive about it HUB still insisted they are the same. what's worse is AMD sent them a western retail version which they ignored.
I wasn't aware of that, HWUB is usually my immediate go too as well.
 
Both, the 7800 XT was priced well, so was the 7900 GRE on launch.
I know you bought one so you would think that but the reality is neither feature on the steam hardware survey while the direct competition the 4070/4070S have a combined 4% and AMDs market share fell by nearly 50% over the past 2 years so I’d say no they weren’t price well at launch.

The price they’re at now should have been the launch price, it’s no good cutting the price once everyone has already bought Nvidia.
 
It changed when they actually launched it in the west with a higher power profile, that was all except Hardware Unboxed who tried to pretend the China one they pulled out of a prebuild was the same as the west version retail one so they could call it crap, even after AMD told them they are not the same GPU and all other reviewers with different findings were positive about it HUB still insisted they are the same. what's worse is AMD sent them a western retail version which they ignored.
I'm normally of the mind, if i don't like a particular reviewer I'm happy to just completely ignore them. Hub frustrates me though. I think the majority of the testing they do is really good. Lots and lots of good data. But I often find myself disagreeing with their, specifically Steve's conclusions. Also he really doesn't like admitting to ever being wrong and will just keep banging the same drum over and over. So end up kind of skipping through and finding the useful stuff and not listening to much of the rest.
 
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6900 XT 2293 Mhz average in game.
7800 XT 2425 Mhz average in game. +1.3%



Nice Maths. +1.3%?

The average clock speed observed there also hides the fact the 6900 XT is power limited.

The 7800 XT is 263W and the 6900 XT is 300W. +14% on power, so it can't actually exploit the 33% more CUs it has.

Once you let it stretch its legs by upping the power limit to 335W you get it performing 15% better. Again everything is explained by specs.

The RDNA2 to RDNA3 IPC increase is single digit percentage at best. It is why the 7800XT is identical to the 300W 6800 XT.

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I have my 6900xt underwater.
I use it with clocks 2750mhz/2150 memory.
Power limit+15% and voltage on core 1130mv.
With OC like that this card os probably faster than 7900gre and closer to stock 7900xt?
 
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I have my 6900xt underwater.
I use it with clocks 2750mhz/2150 memory.
Power limit+15% and voltage on core 1130mv.
With OC like that this card os probably faster than 7900gre and closer to stock 7900xt?
Similar setting here with a 6950xt. Mine performs right between a 7900 GRE and a 7900 XT.

I wanna hope 9070xt overclocks like a devil with good power headroom, but likely grasping at straws. It's going to be a 4070 ti for £550.
 
HUB have seemingly taken quite an anti RT stance recently. Maybe they like being a bit edgelordy (it’s a word despite what my autocorrect thinks).
I don't see it as an anti rt stance. They are pointing out some flaws and issues. You can point out flaws and still like a feature, doesn't make you anti rt. I actually find it refreshing, as RT does have problems to overcome but these opinions get drowned out behind all the RT hype. Considering a good chunk of the gpu price is down to RT, for the performance cost it hasn't been as game changing as many make it out to be.
 
Similar setting here with a 6950xt. Mine performs right between a 7900 GRE and a 7900 XT.

I wanna hope 9070xt overclocks like a devil with good power headroom, but likely grasping at straws. It's going to be a 4070 ti for £550.
Second hand RX 7900xtx for 550-600£ wil be more appyling to me,which I could have two months ago for that price...
With 360hz monitor I won't be using RT anyway.
 
I have my 6900xt underwater.
I use it with clocks 2750mhz/2150 memory.
Power limit+15% and voltage on core 1130mv.
With OC like that this card os probably faster than 7900gre and closer to stock 7900xt?

I have my sons 7900 XT undervolted to 975mV and set to -10% power limit. This gives it better than stock performance at 287W (down from 320).

Logically the RX 9070 can’t be over $550 IMHO. The GRE is $550 and the 7800 XT is $480. They can’t even be that stupid to think people will pay the same price/perf if they try bumping the price for a 20% - 30% performance uplift.

Though I expect the performance to be decent but AMD will totally fail on price and think $600 - $650. The morons.
 
It changed when they actually launched it in the west with a higher power profile, that was all except Hardware Unboxed who tried to pretend the China one they pulled out of a prebuild was the same as the west version retail one so they could call it crap, even after AMD told them they are not the same GPU and all other reviewers with different findings were positive about it HUB still insisted they are the same. what's worse is AMD sent them a western retail version which they ignored.

I really dislike HUB
 
I don't see it as an anti rt stance. They are pointing out some flaws and issues. You can point out flaws and still like a feature, doesn't make you anti rt. I actually find it refreshing, as RT does have problems to overcome but these opinions get drowned out behind all the RT hype. Considering a good chunk of the gpu price is down to RT, for the performance cost it hasn't been as game changing as many make it out to be.

Plus, it won't make much difference anyway even if they were anti rt. People used to make videos showing issues of TAA and hoping it would go away - fast forward, every game now uses TAA despite its problems and RT will be the same, developers always opt for the easy route
 
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Plus, it won't make much difference anyway even if they were anti rt. People used to make videos showing issues of TAA and hoping it would go away - fast forward, every game now uses TAA despite its problems and RT will be the same, developers always opt for the easy route
Haha TAA, when a 4k game looks like 1440p from the "old" days.
 
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