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AMD reveals RDNA4 architecture, Radeon RX 9070 GPUs, and Ryzen 9000 X3D CPUs

AMD has announced new Radeon RX 9070 XT and Radeon RX 9070 graphics cards, but has done so without providing any specifications, any performance figures, pricing, or...
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AMD has announced new Radeon RX 9070 XT and Radeon RX 9070 graphics cards, but has done so without providing any specifications, any performance figures, pricing, or a release date, outside of a vague "Q1 2025." This is a pretty disappointing given that many were expecting full product details from AMD's RDNA4 launch – you'll just have to keep waiting to learn everything about these models.


It really seems like AMD is not willing to commit to providing concrete information ahead of Nvidia's GeForce 50 series announcement, which we're expecting later today as well. This gives AMD more flexibility to respond to Nvidia's new generation, for better or worse. If they really want to disappoint gamers this generation and ensure RDNA4 is a flop, they would wait for RTX 50 series pricing and make their equivalent models slightly cheaper – a strategy that categorically didn't work with the previous generation and absolutely should not be attempted again. But who knows, we might be in for a repeat anyway.


A more positive perspective is that AMD might be waiting to see what Nvidia does to ensure their products are highly competitive and to better market their cards in comparison to Nvidia. If Nvidia decides to give us a decent price-to-performance improvement this generation, then AMD could respond with even more aggressive pricing later or make minor configuration adjustments. Realistically, the most important factor for AMD is how good RDNA4 looks in comparison to Nvidia's new products.
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TNA said:
Well, you go in with low expectations and somehow come out disappointed.

That is a major disappointment.
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I would say its pretty ffing impressive in a negative way if that makes sense. I expected all the nonsense chatter and filler from an nvidia presentation with cringe Jensen on stage but all he has to do now is announce just a single GPU with performance charts and he would have won round 1 of CES.
 
uscool said:
No idea I wasn't following GPUs at that time and bought the 5700xt second hand

Here AMD has the 9070xt just above the 7900xt
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Look at that slide. Look where the 4070 Ti is. Basically they are saying they have nothing to offer me. My 4070Ti in 2023 for £575 has served me wall as even AMD's next gen stuff seem yo just about match it.

Based on that slide the 9070 XT should be £499 at most. But it will be whatever nvidia offers minus 50-100 dollars. Lol.

Why won't AMD learn. Come out swinging ffs. And they want market share...
 
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TNA said:
Look at that slide. Look where the 4070 Ti is. Basically they are saying they have nothing to offer me. My 4070Ti in 2023 for £575 has served me wall as even AMD's next gen stuff seem yo just about match it.

Based on that slide the 9070 XT should be £499 at most. But it will be whatever nvidia offers minus 50-100 dollars. Lol.

Why won't AMD learn. Come out swinging ffs. And they want market share...
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I'm thinking the 5070 is gonna offer what 4070ti super does but with 12gb
 
We don't know when they will launch yet, could be after Nvidia, so they will tell us closer to launch date.

edit:- I don't take notice of anything until they get released.
I heard Jensen showing off a food processor in his kitchen this year.:p
 
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TNA said:
Have you read the comments? Apparently they went on about AI even though they led the journos to think something was about to be announced. Lol
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My question still stands, what massive was disappointed?

And yes i watched the stream and went "wtf" when it suddenly switched from gaming and that was that.
 
TNA said:
Look at that slide. Look where the 4070 Ti is. Basically they are saying they have nothing to offer me. My 4070Ti in 2023 for £575 has served me wall as even AMD's next gen stuff seem yo just about match it.

Based on that slide the 9070 XT should be £499 at most. But it will be whatever nvidia offers minus 50-100 dollars. Lol.

Why won't AMD learn. Come out swinging ffs. And they want market share...
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Nvidia at least was waiting for the production of faster GDDR7 modules which was late 2024 to early this year:
wccftech.com

[Update] SK hynix GDDR7 Mass-Production Expected To Commence By Q1 2025, A Quarter Behind Competitors

SK hynix looks to gear up for the GDDR7 as the firm announces plans for mass-production by Q1 2025, being behind competitors for now.
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What is the excuse from AMD? Oh,yet let's wait for Nvidia for pricing and to clear out their old stock at a lower discount. Now,FSR4 won't work with RDNA3 its more devalued.

The vague Q1 2025 launch window doesn't inspire confidence.
 
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So not only did AMD withhold releasing their product stack in the 7000 series, they are gone to just plain hiding what they have now.

Enthusiast pc gaming is getting more dead I see.
 
Raelgun said:
So not only did AMD withhold releasing their product stack in the 7000 series, they are gone to just plain hiding what they have now.

Enthusiast pc gaming is getting more dead I see.
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Forget enthusiast gaming. This is an upper mainstream graphics card with apparently around a 300MM2 die(same as the other AMD mainstream cards). The difference between an RX7900XT and an RX7800XT is around 30% according to TPU:

So the RX9070XT isn't a massive leap over the RX7800XT.

The difference between the RX7800XT(346MM2) and RX6700XT(335MM2) is around 50% and then RX6700XT and RX5700XT around 32% at launch:

They are not using GDDR7 either.
 
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TNA said:
Look at that slide. Look where the 4070 Ti is. Basically they are saying they have nothing to offer me. My 4070Ti in 2023 for £575 has served me wall as even AMD's next gen stuff seem yo just about match it.

Based on that slide the 9070 XT should be £499 at most. But it will be whatever nvidia offers minus 50-100 dollars. Lol.

Why won't AMD learn. Come out swinging ffs. And they want market share...
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As soon as that slide leaked it was obvious the price had to be less than £500.
If they release the price now at less than £500 with no product they kill old stock sitting in stores.
If they release a price higher than that they get panned and have to drop prices later anyway.
So they pulled it which has its own amusement watching people go into meltdown.
 
From TPU:
We also got our first peek at what the "Navi 48" GPU powering the Radeon RX 9070 series looks like—it features an unusual rectangular die with a 2:1 aspect ratio, which seems to lend plausibility to the popular theory that the "Navi 48" is two "Navi 44" dies joined at the hip with full cache-coherency. The GPU is rumored to feature a 256-bit GDDR6 memory interface, and 64 compute units (4,096 stream processors). The "Navi 44," on the other hand, is exactly half of this (128-bit GDDR6, 32 CU). AMD is building the "Navi 48" and "Navi 44" on the TSMC N4P (4 nm EUV) foundry node, on which it is building pretty much its entire current-generation, from mobile processors, to CPU chiplets.
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Looks like there was a AMD Glue(TM) failure at the last moment.
 
mrk said:
Not so fast./ the problem is since FSR4 is not a transition from FSR3, it's not going to be like DLSS whereby you simply swap out the dll and boom, every game using DLSS is enhanced. The game dev has to update the game for FSR4, and then FSR4 will also only be usable on the new RDNA cards.

So yeah whilst it would still be good, it won't be anywhere near as good, still.
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AMD is claiming FSR4 works on any game that is already built for FSR 3.1. I'm not sure how that works, but my assumption is that AMD has been working on FSR4 for a long time, and they built some of the FSR4 dll's into 3.1 so that when the time came, they could use a driver to inject and activate FSR4 without the game needing an update. However this means those games are not tested so probably even the game developer has no idea what the visual quality will be yet

so we may have a situation where AMD is retroactively enabling FSR4 on dozens of games via a new driver and the new GPu and then you find out fsr4 has some issues on some games just like we saw with the ps5 pro recently - in fact I'm 90% confident this is exactly what's going to happen, some games are going to have visual bugs at launch
 
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Looks like Nvidia will beat them to the punch and reveal/release 5070 before AMD release anything.
By that point, folks will have run out of patience for AMDs antics and just buy Nvidia instead.

And that slide suggests no better performance than 7900xt.
If they price it no higher than £450 and give it decent VRAM, than perhaps... just maybe... it might not be a flop.
 
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