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Poll: ** The AMD VEGA Thread **

On or off the hype train?

  • (off) Train has derailed

    Votes: 207 39.2%

  • (on) Overcrowding, standing room only

    Votes: 100 18.9%

  • (never ever got on) Chinese escalator

    Votes: 221 41.9%
  • Total voters
    528
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Mtom said:
This is fake IMHO
It's a FE card, the driver is the same as in the left column, only 10% OC above it, and 27-36% more performance? No way. That's some funny guys play.
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The tesselation levels had been played with. Remember also at stock the FE tends to average around 1440mhz on the core so a constant 1756mhz is a nice overclock. Memory might also add a good bit as it did on Fiji with a decent clock bump.

Here is more what the score should look like without Tesselation being tampered with.

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/13130101

Here is the full link and as you can see up the top right Tesselation was modified which is where i think he got the higher scores. So not fake but cheating to get higher scores.

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/13151493
 
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If vega can manage to come within 15% of 1080ti then that would be a win for AMD but that needs to be done with base clocks not overclocks. Its starting to play out into a similar
situation as Ryzen Vs Intel. AMD have amazing cpu just cant get the clocks. Here it seems to be the CRAZY power draw as clocks get higher. Maybe the XTX version will be better selected silicon
with which require lower voltages and hence better power profile, but AMD really cant afford to mess things up again. We need them to be competitive so that we don't get taken to the cleaners price wise.
 
AMDPower said:
If vega can manage to come within 15% of 1080ti then that would be a win for AMD but that needs to be done with base clocks not overclocks. Its starting to play out into a similar
situation as Ryzen Vs Intel. AMD have amazing cpu just cant get the clocks. Here it seems to be the CRAZY power draw as clocks get higher. Maybe the XTX version will be better selected silicon
with which require lower voltages and hence better power profile, but AMD really cant afford to mess things up again. We need them to be competitive so that we don't get taken to the cleaners price wise.
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Even so if that leak is true regarding mass produciton then they will maybe have some risk production but it will be months before there is any true volume (which adds credence to the stock levels I've seen rumoured) and if people aren't getting that performance until getting closer to Christmas that is woeful.
 
Rroff said:
Even so if that leak is true regarding mass produciton then they will maybe have some risk production but it will be months before there is any true volume (which adds credence to the stock levels I've seen rumoured) and if people aren't getting that performance until getting closer to Christmas that is woeful.
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Yeah I seem to remember AMD mentioning that the availability would be low at launch, but that was before the FE, so I don't know if it was RX they were talking about. But then I don't really find that surprising, I would imagine that they have ramped Polaris up to max since June, so would that bring down Vega production ? I wouldn't be surprised if that would put an extra delay on Vega
 
Mauller said:
It is not binaural audio that you want, what you want is proper convolution reverb that takes environmental features into account, by using wave tracing and first order reflections. Which is what Aureal did back in the late 90's, which is still the best audio system to date. but it is computationally expensive, which is why you don't see it running on software audio stacks.

Now TrueAudio Next does the above, not the first True Audio, but the version that came with Polaris and now Vega. it uses some of the CU's to perform first order reflections and convolution reverb, taking environmental features and materials into account.

AMD were bigging up TrueAudio next for VR, but even in non VR it makes a massive difference to immersion. Audio has been one of the most under developed parts of gaming for the past fifteen years to the point where it is no better than audio we had back in the early 90's.
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I was thinking of Aureal whilst reading this conversation. Never forget, and never forgive Creative Labs :p
 
TheRealDeal said:
The tesselation levels had been played with. Remember also at stock the FE tends to average around 1440mhz on the core so a constant 1756mhz is a nice overclock. Memory might also add a good bit as it did on Fiji with a decent clock bump.

Here is more what the score should look like without Tesselation being tampered with.

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/13130101

Here is the full link and as you can see up the top right Tesselation was modified which is where i think he got the higher scores. So not fake but cheating to get higher scores.

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/13151493
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I didn't notice that - bah!! I saw it posted on a US forum BTW.
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
I didn't notice that - bah!! I saw it posted on a US forum BTW.
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Yea seen the same post last night on a Facebook Channel so checked it out. Was going to post it here if it turned out legit but noticed the tessellation just before i jumped. Still pretty nice clocks considering at stock these tend to boost around the 1440 mark without tinkering. If the gaming card does have some more features turned on in the driver then they might turn out not to be too bad especially if the price is right. Even with the stock cooler the FE doesn't seem to be to bad with thermals considering how much heat it's having to deal with.
 
TheRealDeal said:
Yea seen the same post last night on a Facebook Channel so checked it out. Was going to post it here if it turned out legit but noticed the tessellation just before i jumped. Still pretty nice clocks considering at stock these tend to boost around the 1440 mark without tinkering. If the gaming card does have some more features turned on in the driver then they might turn out not to be too bad especially if the price is right. Even with the stock cooler the FE doesn't seem to be to bad with thermals considering how much heat it's having to deal with.
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What sort of noise is expected to keep it that cool though? I mean most cards can be cooled decently if noise is no issue (which it absolutely is).

I suppose for the XTX water cooled version it won't be a problem.
 
Jono8 said:
What sort of noise is expected to keep it that cool though? I mean most cards can be cooled decently if noise is no issue (which it absolutely is).

I suppose for the XTX water cooled version it won't be a problem.
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At those clocks i would guess it's like having a wind turbine in your room. Stock coolers suck full stop for overclocking/noise so wouldn't expect anything quiet. At 40db it was keeping the chip 8oc cooler than the Titan Xp stock cooler so as stock coolers go it must be pretty decent.


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regarding noise on rx vega it is really hard to say for AIB cards, we know the very best 3 fan setups can soak some serious wattage so i am hopeful that the AIB coolers will not be noisey.

AMD and NVidia don't have much form with their reference card air coolers so i don't hold up much hope for the Rx vega reference card being anything other than loud.
 
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