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Poll: ** The AMD VEGA Thread **

On or off the hype train?

  • (off) Train has derailed

    Votes: 207 39.2%

  • (on) Overcrowding, standing room only

    Votes: 100 18.9%

  • (never ever got on) Chinese escalator

    Votes: 221 41.9%
  • Total voters
    528
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maonayze said:
Errrmm.....nope. Not really.

Let's be honest here, both sets of fans will see and interpret what they want to see. Okay lets address your points :-

1) You couldn't have had the same performance ages ago for the same price.....simply because it wasn't the same price. The 1080 is a lot cheaper now than it was 15 months ago. In fact we all know that the 1080's were in the current 1080Ti price brackets (or there abouts) 15 months ago. Can't argue with the efficiency comment.
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Not really true. Starting RRP price for the 1080 was $549 and I had a gigabyte G1 (ie a decent custom cooled version) on its way to me from a well known retailer for £559.99 on the 10th June (it went back as I decided against it, but if I wanted it I could have had it).

The standard plastic blower was £525 even on here on release -

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/t...gtx-1080-models-ready-for-pre-order.18732799/
 
So what would people do in my situation?

2 months ago I upgraded my CPU/Mobo/Ram and also bought a 34" UW freesync lg monitor (3440x1440p) I stuck with GPU (980Ti) waiting on Vega.

My monitor is stuck @ 60Hz with any NVidia GPU (as it frame skips at 61Hz or over) and obviously no form of sync, so I have to get every game to never drop below 60fps for v-sync smoothness.

With an AMD gpu, the monitor would be freesync and allow 75hz refresh.

So far my only option for a GPU upgrade is VEGA. A 1080Ti still wouldn't allow above 60hz or any for of variable refresh so seems like a waste of money

I'm also seriously considering forgetting PC gaming and sticking with console only, and just leave my PC as is
 
JediFragger said:
2H ;) :p
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Haha :D;)


Jono8 said:
Not really true. Starting RRP price for the 1080 was $549 and I had a gigabyte G1 (ie a decent custom cooled version) on its way to me from a well known retailer for £559.99 on the 10th June (it went back as I decided against it, but if I wanted it I could have had it).
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Good point, you just jogged my memory, as I recall the clown version was even cheaper yet.


ljt said:
So what would people do in my situation?

2 months ago I upgraded my CPU/Mobo/Ram and also bought a 34" UW freesync lg monitor (3440x1440p) I stuck with GPU (980Ti) waiting on Vega.

My monitor is stuck @ 60Hz with any NVidia GPU (as it frame skips at 61Hz or over) and obviously no form of sync, so I have to get every game to never drop below 60fps for v-sync smoothness.

With an AMD gpu, the monitor would be freesync and allow 75hz refresh.
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At that resolution probably a Vega 56 would get you to 75fps I would imagine. So I would consider that.

As disappointing as Vega is right now. Wait for reviews before making any decisions I say.
 
TNA said:
1- 1080 has had it's price drop for quite a few months now. Also 1070 which the Vega 56 seemingly targets has around the same price since launch.

2- It is late, first they said Q2, did not happen, but okay lets say they managed to FE out, so that is fine. But then they said it would launch at SIGGRAPH (Lise Su said this and they made slide showing this at computex) and again they did not launch. So yes, they are late. They are late also because this performance and even greater have been available for ages by their competition.

3- Saying AMD are milking us with Vega maybe harsh I agree. But money is money and performance is performance at the end of the day.

It does seem like they went with a pricing where they will probably still sell what they are able to produce at this moment and as you say less damaging for them as Nvidia can easily cut prices. But it does no good for their image imo. You will see quite a few people here who usually always stick with AMD moving over to Nvidia now as they feel let down both by price and performance.

We will have to wait and see what the UK prices will be to say for sure really. Plus AIB cards will be more expensive as, I understand it anyway, so they may not end up cheaper than a 1080 after all.
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I imagine a few will keep tight to the rrp but expect a $50+ tax with the usual suspects.
Really hope AMD have retained some of the build quality of the FE and haven't cut back to far for the reference air cooled RX 56/64 versions.
 
ljt said:
So what would people do in my situation?

2 months ago I upgraded my CPU/Mobo/Ram and also bought a 34" UW freesync lg monitor (3440x1440p) I stuck with GPU (980Ti) waiting on Vega.

My monitor is stuck @ 60Hz with any NVidia GPU (as it frame skips at 61Hz or over) and obviously no form of sync, so I have to get every game to never drop below 60fps for v-sync smoothness.

With an AMD gpu, the monitor would be freesync and allow 75hz refresh.

So far my only option for a GPU upgrade is VEGA. A 1080Ti still wouldn't allow above 60hz or any for of variable refresh so seems like a waste of money

I'm also seriously considering forgetting PC gaming and sticking with console only, and just leave my PC as is
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Go back in time and buy a Dell S2716DG :s
 
Panos said:
Everything is confusing after the slides and paper launch.
Bundle deal confusing for UK and EU.
Holocube deal confusing also.
Performance very confusing. how's possible a chip almost twice as big as the FuryX performing 30% more while consuming more power than stock 1000/500 FuryX. Hell my overclocked FuryX (1190/600) looks is just 10% slower than the liquid Vega 64. And having owned a watercooled 1080 @ 2190 last year, there is a 40% fps difference between 1100/550 FuryX and 1080 @ 2190.
Infinity Fabric on Vega, complete silence also which is confusing. If they showed something isn't reported by the rumour-outlets like the wccftech or too difficult technically to understand for them, so we don't know.
Am I annoyed? Yes. But that's how far I will go because not buying the product, yet, gives me the right to say just that.

Before any troll writes about the above and apply the usual religious zealotry, at least up to now always was on wait and see the gaming card, without jumping on the outrage AMD bashing wagon.
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Can you not just have a discussion without resorting to calling people trolls, idiots and getting extremely angry with them if they don't agree with your point of view.............
 
ljt said:
So what would people do in my situation?

2 months ago I upgraded my CPU/Mobo/Ram and also bought a 34" UW freesync lg monitor (3440x1440p) I stuck with GPU (980Ti) waiting on Vega.

My monitor is stuck @ 60Hz with any NVidia GPU (as it frame skips at 61Hz or over) and obviously no form of sync, so I have to get every game to never drop below 60fps for v-sync smoothness.

With an AMD gpu, the monitor would be freesync and allow 75hz refresh.

So far my only option for a GPU upgrade is VEGA. A 1080Ti still wouldn't allow above 60hz or any for of variable refresh so seems like a waste of money

I'm also seriously considering forgetting PC gaming and sticking with console only, and just leave my PC as is
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Wait for reviews.

If still disappointed, sell monitor on second hand market and buy Gsync.
 
Has anyone noticed, where is LoadsaMoney? First Flopper goes missing after the last AMD launch, now LoadsaMoney?

He did not want to admit it, but I think he wanted to buy two Vega's to crossfire them :p
 
Well the CEO wasnt lying when she said AMD isnt the budget option now days :)

But yes going off AMD's own slides it seems disappointing for how long its taken and i wonder if they would have been better trying to make Fury faster somehow instead.
 
V F said:
Goes missing? Never heard of Flopper.
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You missed out then, he was the biggest AMD fan here. His posts were so pro AMD, it was funny to read.

Here is the type posts he would make:


flopper said:
die shrink, 2.5 times more efficient this generation cards with HDR screens is really a brighter future for all AMD buyers its even 2.5 times brighter than before and thats bright!

Polaris the star of AMD
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