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Poll: ** The AMD VEGA Thread **

On or off the hype train?

  • (off) Train has derailed

    Votes: 207 39.2%

  • (on) Overcrowding, standing room only

    Votes: 100 18.9%

  • (never ever got on) Chinese escalator

    Votes: 221 41.9%
  • Total voters
    528
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Bergkamp said:
Wonder if NVidia are tempted to flood the market, drop prices and give AMD's remaining market share a damn good mauling? We might be waiting on reviews etc but it seems pretty clear this isn't near good enough from AMD and you'd think NVidia would try and kick them when they're down.
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Nvidia have spent the last few years getting the market used to crazy high prices. They are not going to devalue that unless they see their sales tank.
 
Zeed said:
Well what if you OC it ??
https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graph...-16GB-Liquid-Cooled-Review/Overclocking-and-C

Well from 350 goes 440 :D Even my bios moded 980ti in furmark does not take that much !!!
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Plenty of cards have been well into the 300's and i have heard of 400's using daft voltage. Even with 500w the rest of your system is not using close to 500.

Possibly going to need some fine wine Psu's for these bad boy's. Wouldn't let one near my old 750 or it will turn into vapour.
 
opethdisciple said:
I took those values from Gamers Nexus so not sure how accurate.

From watching the presentation what I think they did was focus getting them selves back in the data centre first. So Epyc and Vega for compute. Ryzen with it's modular design seems to have paid off, but Vega.... not sure yet.
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Vega has no place as a compute card with 1:16 FP64 support. AMD themselves are explict in saying it is not targeted for compute and there will new architectures in the future for that market.
 
TheRealDeal said:
Plenty of cards have been well into the 300's and i have heard of 400's using daft voltage. Even with 500w the rest of your system is not using close to 500.

Possibly going to need some fine wine Psu's for these bad boy's. Wouldn't let one near my old 750 or it will turn into vapour.
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You should never push your PSU right up to its rated power... it won't last five minutes if you stress it like that.

A PSU is typically most efficient at 50% load.

Recommending a 10000W PSU makes sense if Vega is pulling up to 475W and the rest of the system say 100-200W. You'll be safely within the 10000W limit and somewhere close to peak efficiency.

Sure you could get by with a 750W PSU buy you'd be pushing it to its limits. This will make it run hotter, reduce its lifespan and give you much worse power draw at your wall socket.

10000W is a good recommendation for this card.
 
Steampunk said:
Nvidia have spent the last few years getting the market used to crazy high prices. They are not going to devalue that unless they see their sales tank.
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Other than the Titan cards, things have not changed much at all, even from 10 years ago. The 1000 series had a $50 dollar bump across the range (xx70/xx80/xx80ti) as there was no competition. Even then, prices are still within what they have been in the past.

Look at the 8800 line up -


https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/NVIDIA-GeForce-8800-Ultra-Review-Best-Just-Got-Better


8800 Ultra
$829+


8800 GTX 768MB
$599-649


8800 GTS 640MB
$399-499


8800 GTS 320MB
$299-329


8600 GTS 256MB
$199-229


8600 GT 256MB
$149-159


8500 GT
$89-129


8400 GS
OEM only


8300 GS
OEM only


7600 GS
$89


7300 GT
<$79



Also, the 280 released at $649 in 2008, only $50 dollars cheaper than the 1080Ti rrp and the same as the 980Ti rrp.
 
Steampunk said:
Nvidia have spent the last few years getting the market used to crazy high prices. They are not going to devalue that unless they see their sales tank.
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This is true. I think I'm about to jump to the green team from my 390, and was curious if people thought that might be a possibility.
 
Bergkamp said:
This is true.
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It isnt true, Titan being the exception, graphics card prices are very similar to what they have always been.

We feel it here because a pound used to be worth 2 dollars back in the day....now it is worth ~1.3 dollars...and our VAT rate is higher.
 
Jono8 said:
It isnt true, Titan being the exception, graphics card prices are very similar to what they have always been.

We feel it here because a pound used to be worth 2 dollars back in the day....now it is worth ~1.3 dollars...and our VAT rate is higher.
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They haven't "always been" anything, tbh.

770 - $399
970 - $329
1070 - $449

Take the pound out of the equation altogether, makes it easier.
 
So a 1000w psu once added to the price (and it must be!) really puts this significantly more expensive than a 1080ti and significantly weaker!

Will shops even bother to stock them!
 
FoxEye said:
They haven't "always been" anything, tbh.

770 - $399
970 - $329
1070 - $449

Take the pound out of the equation altogether, makes it easier.
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The 1070 starts at $379

The 670 was $399

so starting prices -

670 - $399
770 - $399
970 - $329
1070 - $379
 
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CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
The Titan was the equivalent of the 8800 Ultra and GTX280 though - it was the fully enabled and largish GPU of its generation.
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The Titan is a vanity/halo product and admittedly is where Nvidia have taken the **** somewhat.Nothing new though as seen by the 8800ultra

For all intents and purposes the Ti versions recently have basically been the top card and as posted these were ~$649 even 10 years ago.
 
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