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Poll: ** The AMD VEGA Thread **

On or off the hype train?

  • (off) Train has derailed

    Votes: 207 39.2%

  • (on) Overcrowding, standing room only

    Votes: 100 18.9%

  • (never ever got on) Chinese escalator

    Votes: 221 41.9%
  • Total voters
    528
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Ayahuasca said:
You may not regret it but have you really seen much benefit @ubersonic fair bit of hassle for no real world gain if so.
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Well I had the advantage of necessity, there was a design flaw in Windows 10 Anniversary update that was only patched recently which caused random black screen crashes on some X79 systems so not having that was an instant improvement.

Benefits wise I have an extra four threads for compute tasks which has improved that kind of work, some games feel smoother even with the same FPS (I would have written this off as a placebo but many others reported the same thing).

Apart from the added performance and stability I honestly haven't noticed a difference, if I didn't know I had an AMD system I wouldn't be able to guess, it just feels normal (which I guess is a plus point).
 
melmac said:
You moved from a high end CPU to another high end CPU and were expecting a big difference in games? Did you read any of the reviews before you actually bought the Ryzen CPU? Moan and cry all you want, but Ryzen is a great CPU with lots of great features, if you only game, then you should have looked at other options.

Your 650W PSU would be fine for Vega.

And Shouldn't you have actually waited for reviews of Vega first?

So much melodrama about a graphics card. Games aren't going to get magically better with a better GPU. I never understand this love/hate, it's a product that you use. If your life happiness depends on the products you buy, you need to take a long hard look at your life.
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Well said id had therapy and i'm on antidepressants most of time to not jump off bridge that i was on edge of ding few times in life.

And it will getALLOT better since in 3D im in 30-40fps range atm on maxed out 980ti.
 
ubersonic said:
Well assuming he kept his RAM he traded 6c12t for 8c12t, I did the same with my 4930K system (had to buy new RAM) and don't regret it.
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I'm on 5th memory kit on ryzen build to get one that works way i want it to :) Amount of Hate i got for Intel was worth spending 1000 pounds to get it out of my house :)

Besides that Ryzen does render videos faster and feels somehow smoother than my 5820k ever did.

But I'm tempted to sell 2 month old teamgroup 3733 kit and get teamgroup 8pack ryzen one to see how it is :D


I just LOVE THINGS. LAst year gotten myself 1000 pound spoon sports carbon bonet for my car that i drive around 3000miles/year cause i Run everywhere but love driving DC2. At lest I'm using my pc where car is standing in garage 1-2 weeks not driven at all :P
 
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Zeed said:
Vega 56 could be but results of 1070 are gimped/frame locked at 72.2. I checked few 1070 reviews and they lack around 20-30 fps !!!
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Gimped on what? Whe dont even know what map they tested. Overclocked 1070 gets 78fps in gamernexus test.
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B12B6 said:
Gimped on what? Whe dont even know what map they tested. Overclocked 1070 gets 78fps in gamernexus test.
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In DX12 which hobbles Nvidia big time and hurts min fps across the board according to that bench, and for absolutely no benefit. In Dx11, it is a different story -
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Jono8 said:
In DX12 which hobbles Nvidia big time and hurts min fps across the board according to that bench, and for absolutely no benefit. In Dx11, it is a different story
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Many here already has said they get boost from DX12 with Nvidia cards. And how is it exactly gimping the test if Nvidia cards cant handle dx12?
 
B12B6 said:
Many here already has said they get boost from DX12 with Nvidia cards. And how is it exactly gimping the test if Nvidia cards cant handle dx12?
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Look at graph linked above and judge 78.8 vs 91.7


And doom to compare them 72.2 fps and Vega 56 DOOM: 101,2 from 'leak' is JUST MATCHING 1070 on Volcan that is AMD's kingdom :P
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B12B6 said:
Many here already has said they get boost from DX12 with Nvidia cards. And how is it exactly gimping the test if Nvidia cards cant handle dx12?
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Nvidia cards can handle DX12, but if the developer can't make a DX12 code path as fast as the DX11 code path then they have failed.
 
http://www.anandtech.com/show/11690/sk-hynix-customers-willing-to-pay-more-for-hbm2-memory
SK Hynix: Customers Willing to Pay 2.5 Times More for HBM2 Memory

HBM2 memory from SK Hynix will be substantially different from HBM1 DRAM not only in terms of performance, but also in terms of per-chip capacity, which makes them more difficult and expensive to produce. As a result, the manufacturer will have all the reason to charge more for such DRAM ICs. According to the aforementioned SK Hynix executive, customers are “willing to pay at least double” or even 2.5 times more for HBM2 memory compared to HBM1 DRAM.

One of the key takeaways from this, besides the expected higher prices of GDDR6 and HBM2 memory from SK Hynix, is the fact that this confirms that the company has not started mass production of HBM2 quite yet. For the time being then, this leaves Samsung as the only HBM2 manufacturer shipping in volume
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So much for those AMD diehards who were trying to claim a manufacture's product catalog was wrong.:p Luckily for AMD Samsung was ahead of the curve.
unfortunately this likely means AMD's margins on Vega are going to be quite tight with these memory costs. HBM1 was already largely known to be a lot more expensive than GDDR5, 2.5x that high price has got to hurt.
 
Zeed said:
Look at graph linked above and judge 78.8 vs 91.7
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What are you trying to prove? He said those test were gimped on gtx1070 and I posted picture where overclocked gtx 1070 gets 6 fps (78) more than what gtx 1070 (72,2) got on those alledged bench. So clearly no gimped.
Doom in bencs says DOOM: 101.2FPS (GTX 1070: 84.6FPS) , DOOM was at Ultra with 8x TSAA enabled
and here is test where it gets 85,5fps on 2.560 × 1.440, TSSAA 8TX/16:1 HQ-AF
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Doom-2016-Spiel-56369/Specials/Benchmark-Test-1195242/

Guru3D in COD:IW 1440p Ultra GTX 1070 gets 85 and on those rx56 benches it gets 92.1 in High.

We dont know if the benches are real or what maps they run but saying gtx 1070 results are gimped are clearly not true.
 
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D.P. said:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/11690/sk-hynix-customers-willing-to-pay-more-for-hbm2-memory



So much for those AMD diehards who were trying to claim a manufacture's product catalog was wrong.:p Luckily for AMD Samsung was ahead of the curve.
unfortunately this likely means AMD's margins on Vega are going to be quite tight with these memory costs. HBM1 was already largely known to be a lot more expensive than GDDR5, 2.5x that high price has got to hurt.
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Slightly confused by that article. Is that saying the memory capacity (HBM1 4GB vs HBM2 4GB) will be 2.5 times the price? That has to really sting. Any idea on the cost of the actual memory modules?
 
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