The Apprentice

spirit said:
she will be poor, get 100k for one year and like tim take a massive pay drop later.
That isn't what Apprentice is about, though. Or to put it another way, if any contestant is focussed on the salary not the job, they're the wrong person for the job.
 
Seems like he wanted an apprentice not an equal, goes to show that you can be too good at a job.

The comment about "I had an Incline from the start" would be interesting to know who he was talking about, it was shown in the normal jumping between random statements that comes at the end of each show.

One thing that really gets on my nerves is this entire, 10 years ago she was working on the checkouts at quicksave. Who cares, when people were 16 most people had some sort of menial job for almost no money, I pushed trollies at tescos less than 10 years ago, now I run an IT dept and have a nice paycheck, and about 40 people reporting to me, it aint that un-common but that was really picked up and praised the last couple of weeks.

I think that in a business sense he would off got the better results from Ruth, she seemed just to get on with tasks. I thought the moment the task was announced that Ruths do would not be as good as Michael's due to the creative side of the project, Ruth admits she was not the most vreative person, but knowing the weakness, she also knows when to get help on the creative sides. Even with this, she brought in about twice the money the other team did. I wonder just how well Ruth would have done with her drive and organising with Sharon's event idea, as I believe that the OO-Heaven Idea was mostly hers.

Well, in the end its not my £100,000 that i'm gonna have to give to someone so he can spend his money as he wants.

I hope Ruth has a blog of personal webspace so we can actually watch oer the next few months and find out how well she is doing, she was by far the most able business person in the group, just not what SAS was looking for.
 
Dingo said:
Ruth was efficient as always but struggles to take direction so wouldn't make much of an apprentice.

Paul is becoming more petulant and sulky by the week.

Syed needs stitches........to his mouth to stop the endless drivel that comes out and miracle of miracles he necer mentioned the East End once this week!!

Ansell looks good with a relaxed style but hasn't really performed that well in general tasks as opposed to selling.

As per my last post I think Michelle has the look of the winner to me.

She may be haughty and distant at times but she does have a backbone and I think she dealt with Paul very well while he was having his schoolboy tantrum. SAS mentioned with last week's challenge that the apprentice would be doing what he has done (ie) taking new products to market, and Michelle acquitted herself well in last week's task (despite Ruth's condecending remarks about her sale) and, in my opinion, made all the right moves as the project manager this week.....and more importantly is still visibly not stuck in a groove like most of the others seem to be.

It's the Pit Bull (Ruth) versus the Piranha (Michelle) in the Final for me!!


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Triad2000 said:
Does 'the apprentice' get a fixed contract, or is it a perm job?

I think Tim who won it last year got a 1 year contract, then got it extended, not 100% sure though.

But Saira who lost, I am sure is earning way more than Tim is and also has a better job(s)!
 
Unconditional said:
It would be interesting to know what people like paul and Syed end up doing.

I think Joe was offered a job on a radio station.
Who was Joe? :/

Edit: Oh, Jo :p (my poor brain took a while to work that one out....)
 
God i want to give michelle a damn good seeing too. I think she looked beautiful tonight, even though i wasn't a great fan of the bright blonde.

PLus she could pay for many things of mine and all id have to do is make her go (eddie murphy - RAW) Oooooooooooo!
 
adfinni said:
God i want to give michelle a damn good seeing too. I think she looked beautiful tonight, even though i wasn't a great fan of the bright blonde.

lol! but i agree ;)

for all the people rubbishing her £120k income - i have to say that £40-50/hour freelance contracts are common these days, especially in london. work hard and youll get there.

good to see that someone who is mildmannered and respectful beat the pushy con artists and bull-********.
 
IIRC in last weeks ep Michelle got shot down in an interview for relying on "instinct" and "gut-feeling" yet SAS's decision was based on "instinct"....:rolleyes:
 
aphex said:
IIRC in last weeks ep Michelle got shot down in an interview for relying on "instinct" and "gut-feeling" yet SAS's decision was based on "instinct"....:rolleyes:

did SAS have a go at her for it though or was it just that interviewer who was playing devils advocate and trying to rile her?
 
It's always the runners up that make the real money. The victor is tied into the winning contract whilst the losers get the freedom to take whatever TV work is on offer. look at that Saira, she's loaded now.
 
Clearcut said:
It's always the runners up that make the real money. The victor is tied into the winning contract whilst the losers get the freedom to take whatever TV work is on offer. look at that Saira, she's loaded now.

but we wouldn't know about SAS perks n bonuses
 
Bluebells said:
I think Tim who won it last year got a 1 year contract, then got it extended, not 100% sure though.

spot on - they did a follow up programme on Tim to show how he got on and his first task under Amstrad didn't do all that well but SAS extended his contract for a further year.
 
Clearcut said:
It's always the runners up that make the real money. The victor is tied into the winning contract whilst the losers get the freedom to take whatever TV work is on offer. look at that Saira, she's loaded now.
But the Apprentice is, after all, a training role, albeit one at a very high level. Anyone getting the Apprentice position, and doing well in the job, is looking at an opportunity for a career as a very high flyer indeed. Of course, getting the job is the easy bit - you then have to prove yourself. But Michelle will be getting a type of opportunity that is is virtually unavailable any other way, short of doing it the way Sugar, Branson, Gates, et. al. did it, and starting from scratch.

With an apprenticeship, you expect to be getting (relatively) poor wages. You're doing it for the training, and the experience, and for where it leads. So it's no surprise that runners-up do better for the next year than the winner. But the acid test will be to look back in ten or twenty years years time, when Michelle is perhaps running a multinational empire and earning a few million a year, and Ruth is still a sales manager, while Saira's temporary fame has worn off and she can no longer get media jobs off the back of Apprentice. If Michelle (or Tim) can make the most of the chance they've got, they'll be earning vast sums in years to come.

As I said a few posts back, any contestant focussed on the salary isn't the right person for the job, because that isn't the point of the job.
 
VaderDSL said:
did SAS have a go at her for it though or was it just that interviewer who was playing devils advocate and trying to rile her?

I'm sure you are correct it was one of the interviewers that grilled her on that IIRC
 
Having been enthralled all the way through, I found last night's episode a bit of an anti-climax. Knowing that both Michelle and Ruth have been working for one of SAS's companies for the last six months and the fact that both will continue to work for SAS (Michelle as The Apprentice, Ruth in a different role) makes a mockery of the show.

I wonder if Michelle won because she was the best, or just the best for the job SAS had in mind for her. Mind you, was the job on the cards all along (in which case she's probably the ideal candidate) or was the job tailored to fit the winner?
 
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