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Good games with frodder there on the EA server 
It always makes me giggle when people go on about vehicle whores and how their stats are pointless, sit at the back etc. yet these "vehicle whores" have far better stats overall (flags capped/defended, KPM, SPM, skill etc.) than the majority of players and can achieve the same standard of gameplay in 90% of the matches they play ( i.e. 20+ k/d, first with far more points than the rest of the team)
If it is so easy then why don't more people get the same sort of scores....
Now people who sit near their base and and do **** all except spam activ noob missiles, staff shell etc. is complete and utter ****, no skill at all but those are the ones that end up near the bottom/middle of the scoreboard with only 10-15 kills.
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Also, most of the "vehicle whores" I know/play with are also damn good at infantry
Yup good old EA server, the farm server
I only play there with the xh guys before 7 as no one else is usually on (and if there are other people on, they usually only play one map...)
Rounds are pretty damn boring but I rather play with a good team than a **** team who don't PTFO.
It always makes me giggle when people go on about vehicle whores and how their stats are pointless, sit at the back etc. yet these "vehicle whores" have far better stats overall (flags capped/defended, KPM, SPM, skill etc.) than the majority of players and can achieve the same standard of gameplay in 90% of the matches they play ( i.e. 20+ k/d, first with far more points than the rest of the team)
If it is so easy then why don't more people get the same sort of scores....
Now people who sit near their base and and do **** all except spam activ noob missiles, staff shell etc. is complete and utter ****, no skill at all but those are the ones that end up near the bottom/middle of the scoreboard with only 10-15 kills.
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Also, most of the "vehicle whores" I know/play with are also damn good at infantry
Yup good old EA server, the farm server
I only play there with the xh guys before 7 as no one else is usually on (and if there are other people on, they usually only play one map...)
Rounds are pretty damn boring but I rather play with a good team than a **** team who don't PTFO.
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Because there are only a limited amount of vehicles...
To be fair SPM/SKILL/KPM are not necessarily tied to objective based play.
I love a good KPI. I think we need some MI.
They kind of are though
You get far more points for objective stuff i.e. flag caps and defending whilst killing enemies on the burn + squad work, spotting etc. People who PTFO more than someone who is just sitting back to get easy kills will get higher up on the scoreboard easily, seen loads of people come first with 15 or less kills where as someone who has got 36 but didn't ptfo only come around 5th. IIRC DICE had to reduce the score you got for objective based stuff as in the beta it was stupid the amount of points you got for flag caps etc.
skill is a good stat this time round too, was ****e in bf 3, it essentially combines mainly SPM, KDR and KPM in one figure.
http://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield_4/comments/1rlm5x/how_skill_is_calculated_solved
And KPM is pretty good for detecting "campers". The more aggressive players will usually have a higher KPM stat
A recon only player who sits at the back will always have a stupidly low KPM, skill and SPM stats than an assault/engi/support who are in the middle of the action capping/defending flags
TBH I would like to see the removal of k/d or at least hide it in the scoreboard for conquest games though, pretty pointless, much rather see flags capped/defended figures!
I will never believe that Skill is a meaningful figure for as long as I see it drop after kicking ass on a game of locker with 1000+ SPM and fantastic KDR and KPM figures.
Everybody has their own ways of playing the game, there is no right or wrong way. The only statistic I care about is KDR and I'm proud of the fact that 95% of my kills have not been from a vehicle. Used to be 98% but I started playing more vehicle maps with OcUK!
Everybody has their own ways of playing the game, there is no right or wrong way. The only statistic I care about is KDR and I'm proud of the fact that 95% of my kills have not been from a vehicle. Used to be 98% but I started playing more vehicle maps with OcUK!
vehicle drivers stats and infantry stats aren't really comparable.
People who moan at people who fly jets or drive all the time are just sore. Just concentrate on your own stats.
Anybody fancy some more games in a bit ?
People who moan at people who fly jets or drive all the time are just sore. Just concentrate on your own stats.
Anybody fancy some more games in a bit ?
Providing you don't play vehicles.
They kind of are though
You get far more points for objective stuff i.e. flag caps and defending whilst killing enemies on the burn + squad work, spotting etc. People who PTFO more than someone who is just sitting back to get easy kills will get higher up on the scoreboard easily, seen loads of people come first with 15 or less kills where as someone who has got 36 but didn't ptfo only come around 5th. IIRC DICE had to reduce the score you got for objective based stuff as in the beta it was stupid the amount of points you got for flag caps etc.
skill is a good stat this time round too, was ****e in bf 3, it essentially combines mainly SPM, KDR and KPM in one figure.
http://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield_4/comments/1rlm5x/how_skill_is_calculated_solved
And KPM is pretty good for detecting "campers". The more aggressive players will usually have a higher KPM stat
A recon only player who sits at the back will always have a stupidly low KPM, skill and SPM stats than an assault/engi/support who are in the middle of the action capping/defending flags
TBH I would like to see the removal of k/d or at least hide it in the scoreboard for conquest games though, pretty pointless, much rather see flags capped/defended figures!
In the context of vehicle whores I disagree. I can zip around in Zavod in the AA totally raping the team without actually contributing to capturing a single point. There is an argument that by doing so it will allot my team to push up but it doesn't always work that way. Jet whores (I used to be one) are even worse.
Fully agree regarding points awarded for objective based play. Flag originated play should be king.
Yeah skill figure does seem to be a bit random at times, seems like if you suicide, you automatically lose 20+ skill.....
For me, it is all about flags capped/defended, SPM, MVP ribbons and of course getting as high as possible in the UK leaderboards! Now 8th in the UK for attack jets KDR and KPM are just bonus stats.
No more games for me tonight frodders, still need to get dinner.... Probably be on tomorrow though
For me, it is all about flags capped/defended, SPM, MVP ribbons and of course getting as high as possible in the UK leaderboards!
Now 8th in the UK for attack jets KDR and KPM are just bonus stats.No more games for me tonight frodders, still need to get dinner.... Probably be on tomorrow though
See I regard that as being a good AA driver and someone who has skill to avoid death and get lots of kills even if you don't cap flags, 90% of the aa drivers in this game just sit in base doing **** all and if they were to try and be aggressive and play the same way as you, me and other aggressive aa drivers, chances are they wouldn't last 5 minutes. So many times I have been in an aa, tank, lav doing well, take some damage and then jump out to repair and some noob jumps in takes the vehicles and guaranteed they will die within 5 minutes which will then allow the enemy to push through and cap our flags, happened today with frodders, I jump out, some guy jumped in the mbt tank and got destroyed within 1 minute....
Jets (aircraft in general tbh) are pretty useless for team play/objective stuff, even with a good pilot raping all the vehicles, it won't necessarily help win the match, if I do ever play by myself and I'm on a **** team, I always jump in the jet as I don't really need to worry about flags, getting base raped etc. Best I can do is help stop the base rape or reduce it.
I love Pearl Market, regulary play PM 24/7 HC. And that L******** Gardens map is epic for CTF!
They kind of are though
You get far more points for objective stuff i.e. flag caps and defending whilst killing enemies on the burn + squad work, spotting etc. People who PTFO more than someone who is just sitting back to get easy kills will get higher up on the scoreboard easily, seen loads of people come first with 15 or less kills where as someone who has got 36 but didn't ptfo only come around 5th. IIRC DICE had to reduce the score you got for objective based stuff as in the beta it was stupid the amount of points you got for flag caps etc.
skill is a good stat this time round too, was ****e in bf 3, it essentially combines mainly SPM, KDR and KPM in one figure.
http://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield_4/comments/1rlm5x/how_skill_is_calculated_solved
And KPM is pretty good for detecting "campers". The more aggressive players will usually have a higher KPM stat
A recon only player who sits at the back will always have a stupidly low KPM, skill and SPM stats than an assault/engi/support who are in the middle of the action capping/defending flags
TBH I would like to see the removal of k/d or at least hide it in the scoreboard for conquest games though, pretty pointless, much rather see flags capped/defended figures!
Maybe these people with low KPM and SPM are helping to seed there servers !
I have a very low SPM and KPM compaired to other players in our clan but when a games on im very rairly out of the top 3 and always PTO and always as aggressively as possible and never camp in a base , infact we dont allow vehicles to camp OOB .
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Lecro that is a rare case tbh. I know how you feel, cos I remember the good ol days of waking up at 7am to seed the old CQ247 server, but in general it's because people are either bad or just messing around.
I for one find it very hard to PTFO on public now that I have played comp. The excitement is less so I just troll. Now they have fixed the gadget glitch I am bored ****less playing BF4
I for one find it very hard to PTFO on public now that I have played comp. The excitement is less so I just troll. Now they have fixed the gadget glitch I am bored ****less playing BF4
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