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JOSH86 said:
Yeah I want them and the DMR's, managed to get a few kills with the RFB today, unlocked the angled grip much better.
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I was trying to use the RFB on SoS earlier, when not flying into buildings :D. I still need to get used to them but can't be bothered to unlock them all if DICE are going to do it all for me.

I did unlock all of the PDW yesterday, I played enough Locker to last me a month.
 
Fire_fly said:
I was trying to use the RFB on SoS earlier, when not flying into buildings :D. I still need to get used to them but can't be bothered to unlock them all if DICE are going to do it all for me
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Problem is the DMR's will be unlocked but not attachments for them, and considering they don't come with any kind of scope that will be a mission.
 
JGStonedRaider said:
Sorry Rroff but "you can pretty much guarantee now on a 64 player server theres 2-3 people using ESP/Wallhacks" what a load of rubbish without any proof
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I've been sitting and spectating on 2-3 servers I regularly play on including CQ247 harcore conquest large for the last few days while babysitting - I've video footage (around 40gigs) of most of it but I'm only gonna name and shame people that I can conclusively do so (not one of those people who run around saying people are cheating just coz they do better than me) - while I'm good at spotting them I'm not perfect.

i.e.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtziSCV1IMw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeEaAZuXD4Q

(If you look at the rest of my channel you can see I was quite proficent at spotting em in COD4/MW2, etc.).

Been playing FPS games online since pretty much the start, been through all the hacking drama of games like q2, q3, CS, etc. etc. I know what to look for and I know what a legit player looks like even at the top level (frequently played practise games, duels, etc. against clans like SK, 4kings, dignitas, etc.). Spent a bit of time duelling fatality in QL when he was in Belgium for a bit, etc.

Its not something I've just come up with lightly or based on playing against people and saying they must be cheating coz they are killing me loads or something.

EDIT: I'd say that over the course of a round with the people leaving/joining on a 64 player server if you've got say 70-80 unique players over that time theres a good chance based on what I've seen that atleast 2 of those people are using some kind of cheat - stating that there is 2-3 people cheating at any one time on a 64 player server isn't quite what I'm meaning though its certainly seeming to be on the increase towards that scenario.
 
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I quite enjoyed using the DMR's the other night but not wasting my time to unlock them when DICe will be giving the BP out for them, same for shotties.

JOSH86 said:
Yeah I want them and the DMR's, managed to get a few kills with the RFB today, unlocked the angled grip much better.



Yeah I don't intend to use it, but not having it bugs me. Got the Asval today might have to give it a spin later.
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RFB is TERRIBLE :(

Personally can't get on with the as val at all, still find that I do better with ak5c etc. loved it in bf 3 though.
 
Roff

Its a shame the hax have become common knowledge to everyone. I don't know which is actually worse, the hax and cheats themselves or the people that linked them mainstream for everyone to go looking for them. It would seem now, that anyone that manage a half decent score in a game (I don't mean 80-4, I'm talking 30-15) is just labelled a cheat. That's just laughable and pretty saddening to be fair. If your a good player, your automatically put in the cheat category now, there's just no appreciation of a half decent player, let alone a **** hot one.

I get totally fed up with seeing the hacusations in every damn game to be honest, its like yawn here we go again. There are super players out there thats for sure, and what's also sure is there are cheaters out there....we've all seen the footage. But what I don't agree with is the crying hackusators in every game. The only proof they have is the statistic that reads K/D and in most cases the people that are calling out the hax are the 1 brain cell type that keep going back to the same position on the map each time and have a .70 KDR.
 
I was shooting team mates today who weren't attacking enough for my liking and running the other way away from the enemy.

Russian Commissar justice as I like to call it.
 
TonyTurbo78 said:
Roff

Its a shame the hax have become common knowledge to everyone. I don't know which is actually worse, the hax and cheats themselves or the people that linked them mainstream for everyone to go looking for them. It would seem now, that anyone that manage a half decent score in a game (I don't mean 80-4, I'm talking 30-15) is just labelled a cheat. That's just laughable and pretty saddening to be fair. If your a good player, your automatically put in the cheat category now, there's just no appreciation of a half decent player, let alone a **** hot one.

I get totally fed up with seeing the hacusations in every damn game to be honest, its like yawn here we go again. There are super players out there thats for sure, and what's also sure is there are cheaters out there....we've all seen the footage. But what I don't agree with is the crying hackusators in every game. The only proof they have is the statistic that reads K/D and in most cases the people that are calling out the hax are the 1 brain cell type that keep going back to the same position on the map each time and have a .70 KDR.
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There are a lot of people sadly who can't tell a good player from a hacker and just cry if someone gets a good KDR or has good stats :| but I'm not one of those people - while some people might arouse my suspicions just from playing against them and my sixth sense for it is pretty good I don't even consider calling out someone as a hacker before I've spent awhile spectating them. Fortunatly BF4 in spectator mode shows tags for the position of everyone even when they aren't visible on screen so it makes it quite a lot easier to pickup on people who are potentially using wallhacks and with a bit of watching they usually give themselves away sooner or later. Something you do have to watch out for though is confirmation bias - its easy to call someone a cheater you suspect is one if they happen to have a one off coincidental event where they pickup on someone they couldn't possibly have known the position of if they weren't cheating but infact it was just good luck on their part and sometimes you might not have the same level of awareness or prediction they have that allowed them to pickup on some cue that you missed.

Some people are pretty good at hiding it and don't have particularly good scores, etc. but they are cheating none the less.
 
Just unlocked the Mk11 MOD 0, give it a try, yup the RFB is horrid, kinda falling in the love with the Ak5C, seem to be failing miserably with the ACE weapons atm.

Odd my BF settings editor managed to reset ALL of my key binds, every profile I had saved was gone, talk about a ball ache trying to get those binds back. Done now, took an hour to remember.

Tony you get a new HS?

Rroff said:
There are a lot of people sadly who can't tell a good player from a hacker
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Nexus...:D
 
Mk11 is a nail driver. I have just unlocked the M39 and will give it a whirl!

They are really effective on the medium ranged maps and can pop off snipers quite easily :)
 
JOSH86 said:
Just unlocked the Mk11 MOD 0, give it a try, yup the RFB is horrid, kinda falling in the love with the Ak5C, seem to be failing miserably with the ACE weapons atm.
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I got that the other day as well, like it a lot! Killed like 3 or 4 guys right around the corner on dawnbreaker oblit, all headshots and best of all, one of them was netphreak :D

AK5c prob my fav gun still, even though the stats "overall" aren't as good as the likes of the ace 21 and 52, I just seem to play and do better with the ak5c....

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Nexus...:D
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Nexus bot too good!

:p :D
 
Easy way to test your theory then Rroff, you tell us the cheaters in the next 5 games you play and I'll either prove or disprove your theory.

I am not trying to make a personal attack but hackusations annoy the hell out of me. Furthermore I always leave a server with just 1 proven cheater on it, why are you still playing BF4 if you see 3/4 cheaters per round?
 
Think the fact it feels to have a slow bullet speed and low recoil help with my lack my recoil control. Nailed a few multi kills with it today.
 
AR > Carbine > DMR. An assault rifle (even the terribad SAR-21) can outshoot DMR's at range. Best DMR is still the Scar-H assault rifle ;)

The AK5C is a fantastic medium range carbine that can compete in close range situation s as well. It has the hightest bullet speed out of the carbines so no drop etc.. Great for 8vs8 Lancang but the ACE52 is still better / harder hitting / faster TTK. That said I am using the AK5C (easy mode) more now on larger maps because I am so used to the ACE 52 and a few people use the Ak5C in comp, gotta be used to all the weapons :/
 
JGStonedRaider said:
AR > Carbine > DMR. An assault rifle (even the terribad SAR-21) can outshoot DMR's at range. Best DMR is still the Scar-H assault rifle ;)
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yep, action man advising dice on weapon characteristics, when a medium range assault rifle with a mouse calibre round can outshoot a purpose built distance rifle.:D
 
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