The best car for £5000? I think so..would you?

Lashout_UK said:
Grandad styling, but can look VERY nice in black with suitable alloys, Lexus LS400. Cost you about half as much too, very quick machines and bulletproof engines.

Only electrical problem I'm aware of is the lights for the needles going, cost about a grand to get fixed at a Lexus dealer, or about 300 quid out of one.

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Ive looked at them and i dont feel as though they are really in the same league as the E38. The quality and looks just are not there. Add to that i'd feel funny being white driving a lexus LS! Cheers for the suggestion though :)
 
Rilot said:
Blower only worked on MAX <snip>
All BMWs will suffer from this at one point or another, it's to do with the bad IHKA and SWORD modules.

So its more complicated than a burnt out blower series resister then? :p lol why do they make cars unnesilally complicated these days :(
 
Theres a metallic blue 750iL that parks round this way, it looks awesome! For this kind of car you'd have to take the beemer over a lexus, different class tbh. As long as you can source bits from breakers/ebay I dont think running/repair costs would be astronomical either as long as you use a specialist.
 
panthro said:
its the best specced car for 5k, but not THE best. It looks ugly imo.

See i think its one of the most sexual cars possible for this budget. What would you suggest instead? Spec isnt important, as i say its merely a summer posey type car, it doesnt need to be able to do anything particular or fit any particular criteria :)
 
[TW]Fox said:
Rilot, purely from a potential expense/running costs/hassle point of view and ignoring insurance would you pick 528/530/535 or 540 (Can apply this to 728/730/735/740 to help Jez as well as I'm sure they are similar answers)

:)

530i or 540i provided it's loaded with kit.

520, 523 and 525 are not worth the time of day. 535i has all the weight of the 540i but without the power.

The 6-cylinder cars handle better than the V8s as they have rack and pinion steering. To squeeze that big V8 under the bonnet they had to use recirculating ball steering on the 535i and 540i which means they feel a little dead with very little feedback.
 
[TW]Fox said:
How did they get around the steering issue with the M5?

Of that I'm not sure. The M5 is definately rack and pinion. It's possible they mounted the engine higher up to get more clearance.

No experience with the M5 so I'm just guessing.
 
Rilot said:
Of that I'm not sure. The M5 is definately rack and pinion. It's possible they mounted the engine higher up to get more clearance.

No experience with the M5 so I'm just guessing.

Cool. I think I'll hassle you considerably more when I start looking to buy :D
 
Rilot said:
The M5 is definately rack and pinion. It's possible they mounted the engine higher up to get more clearance.

No experience with the M5 so I'm just guessing.

Indeed it is. (I wish I had more experience of the M5 :D )


Rilot said:
There are a number of common problems with the E38s. Take your time a pick a good one as a tatty one with a few problems will cause you loads of head aches.

Good advice from Rilot, the more you look at, the better chance of spotting a dog, even knackered & shagged out e38's are deceptively smooth and you would'nt realise how rough it actually was until you'd compared it with some other examples.

FWIW, Iirc,I tried 7 or 8 e38's before I bought mine.

Rilot said:
750i specific
You should be able to balance a pound coin on it's edge on top of the engine with it running and without the coin falling off. If you can't there's something wrong with it and you should walk away.
Not specific to the 750 at all. I can balance a 50p piece or £1 coin with the same results on my M52 engined 728i (in-line 6). :cool:


That 750i looks great for the money Jez,alas, I'd say its only skin deep on that one. they command such crazy low prices because of their reputation for being such money pits, a reputation thats well justified on the 750i - an £80k car thats ,alas, still as expensive to run when its value has dropped to a mere 8th of that value.

Ultimately it comes down to how well its been looked after and I'd seriously think hard about a 750i (or any other e38) thats had 8 :eek: owners.

That'll break down to 2 or 3 owners who could afford to run it properly with main dealer servicing and 5 that probably could'nt!

Its also met some Lorry driver who deemed it needed new doors via his trucks bumper,well, thats what the seller admits about it. - This same seller has been maintaining the car himself so he says, wonder why? Cost?
In other words, its accident damaged and I'd doubt its been repaired properly to correct standards as such damage would be expensive to put right at BMW dealer rates putting it mildly, also he's done the servicing himself, I'd hardly describe my 728 as a good DIY car, a 750i? Never in this world! - they need to speak to BMW's diagnostic equipment.

Only 110K miles on an 8 owner 1995 car? My e38 had covered 98k when I bought it and its a 1998 model, you decide if that 110k mileage is genuine and how many of the 8 owners did'nt consider a simple mileage "correction" ?

As I say it looks nice, but, I'd doubt VERY much it is.

Keep looking and don't discard the 728i, its the cheapest by a country mile to run, and at that, not cheap by most standards!

You never know, that just may be the bargain 750i Sport that it looks, you could be lucky. If your lucks anything like mine, I would'nt chance it.

PS. Its also missing its "V12" Badges. ;)
 
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The problem with 728's is not the power or performance. Its the fact that they all seem to be fairly poorly specified. I cannot see the point in a car with running costs as high as this without having every option. I am disregarding all cars with no comms pack for example (digital climate/tv etc).

The car i buy MUST have all the usual options as above (tv/digital climate), combined with beige leather, a dark colour exterior, 18" multispokes or preferably M-parellel's like that 750, facelifted lights all round, and a FBMWSH or as near as damnit.

728i's just dont come that well specified from what i can see :( Plus with insurance being almost the same across the whole range i cant see why a 728i would be cheaper to run than a 740i....
 
Jez said:
728i's just dont come that well specified from what i can see :( Plus with insurance being almost the same across the whole range i cant see why a 728i would be cheaper to run than a 740i....

I was quoted £110 more for a 740i in insurance,and they are a lot more thirsty than the 2.8 also.

look for a Sport Spec 728i, which gives you the big alloys etc, I've seen plenty with far more goodies than mine - which is typical once you've bought your car! :o , that said, I would'nt describe mine as "poverty spec" .

Keep hunting... ;)
 
Insurance is £900 for the 728, £1100 for the 740, and £1300 for the 750, so all of them are expensive and its not enough to encourage me toward any particular model :) Obviously following Rilot's advice i will disregard 750i's from now on even though they seem easiest to get in the fully loaded spec.

Ideal seems to be 740i with comms pack, beige leather, M-parallel's. I'd happily take a 728i as long as it was fully loaded with the facelift done and had the right leather etc :)

Remember that i do not pay fuel so that is a non issue.
 
[TW]Fox said:
Problem with the 728i is that they are, comparatively, dog slow.

Yes, but, comparatively, cheap as chips to run. ;)

0-60 MPH of 9.6 sec & a Top speed of 140 mph in a near 2 ton car with a 5 speed automatic & a mere 193bhp is pretty damn good though.
The 2.8 engine is also used in plusher 3 and 5 series models, as well as one version of the Z3 roadster, capable of a top speed of 140mph and able to despatch 60mph in just 8.6 seconds (manual variant). When you consider that the 735i V8 could reach 60mph in 8.4 seconds yet would return 26.9mpg as opposed to the 728i's figure of 31.7 you'll understand our admiration for the 'baby' Seven.
- From a review I've read "BMW 7 SERIES , the glorious seventh
(23/02/2006) by Car and Driving" , pretty much sums up my choice of the 728i.

Take it from an owner, they certainly don't feel dog slow, but equally, they are hardly the sorts of cars where speed is an issue. Its at its best on the motorway cruising @ 90 which it'll do all day and return remarkable economy. Pity I never drive my car on the motorway! :o - That said, I never mind traffic jams in it.
 
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Jez said:
Ideal seems to be 740i with comms pack, beige leather, M-parallel's. I'd happily take a 728i as long as it was fully loaded with the facelift done and had the right leather etc :)

Remember that i do not pay fuel so that is a non issue.

Forgotten about the fuel mate! :o - You lucky so & so! :p In that case, disregard the 728i by all means, go find a decent 740i, just make sure your its 2'nd owner. ;)
 
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